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[Workingman]

Just for once, be honest you Brexiters, May's deal is NOT what you voted for - is it?

It is nothing like what you dreamed of when you marked your X.

You might have had an idea of what you wanted, and so did all your mates, but was it the May deal? No.

So, why not revoke A50 and then go again with a Brexit most of us can work with?

[Workingman]

We now have May saying that any new vote would break faith with British people. How much more patronising can this despicable woman get?

Giving the ordinary man and woman a say on things is showing trust in them, the exact opposite of what May says. We deserve more of a shout that those 650 air heads in Westminster who cannot decide whether the door is partly open on partly shut.

What May actually means is that giving the public a vote would break her deal once and for all, and we plebs must not be allowed to do that.

[cromwell]

So, why not revoke A50 and then go again with a Brexit most of us can work with?

Unfortunately Frank I think there has been a complete breakdown of trust in politicians, and after the last two years is there any wonder?

The suspicion would be that Article 50, once revoked, would never surface again.

No, the May deal isn't what people voted for. But her extreme monomania may yet force it through.

[Suff]

The EU, and the UK as members, have 60+ trade deals with individual countries and trading blocs. If we crash out we lose them. We have to renegotiate those deals - in six months. Do give it a rest!

They are all WTO members. Also who is our largest single export partner? Who we have a trade surplus with? The US. Does the US have a trade deal with the EU? NO.

Stop feeding me fear. The main place we need any deal with is the EU and we can move to WTO with them if we need to. As for the HUGE amount of goods we suck in from the EU? You will find that if we remove EU tariffs, we can suck in the same from outside the EU at near the same cost or, generally, less.

Get a grip and stop fearmongering. 6 months to deal with the worst of it. 10 years to build on that foundation.

Tosh. Revoking A50 lets us make a plan or plans.

Did we really learn nothing from the last two years? When it comes to A50 you don't make plans, the EU makes plans and you choose to accept them or not. The only possible alternative is to make plans to leave without a deal. As the politicians don't want to do that, we won't make any plans.

if we revoke A50 it will be permanent. End of story.

The EU is not punishing the UK in any way, shape or form. It is laying out the process for a country to leave, be it the UK, Slovenia, Germany or Malta. We need to get over this 'we are the victims' rubbish.

So they lied then? All those ministers who decried Brexit and made a clear statement that if the UK left it would have to be penalised for leaving. That the "deal" would have to be "significantly" worse than being in the EU, regardless of whether a better deal was even possible, because if they did not, then why would anyone want to be in the EU in the first place.

You can't have it both ways. Either they lied their asses off, or they are punishing us in order to make an example, so that other countries will not do the same.

This is typical remainer rhetoric. Just have another referendum and we'll solve the whole problem (we'll remain). Just revoke A50 and we'll solve the whole problem (Remain).

Let's be totally honest here. We have two viable options. Go with May's deal or go without a deal. Everything else is a pipe dream. If the dreamers get their way the Gilet Jaune unrest will look peaceful.

If you want to totally and completely destroy whatever faith is left in the government, by the majority of the people, then go for revoking A50 or a second referendum. You won't like the outcome of that at all. I might though.

[Suff]

So, why not revoke A50 and then go again with a Brexit most of us can work with?

To reiterate.

Because there are two possible Brexit options.

1. What the EU wants.
2. No Deal.

That's it and we have seen what the EU wants.

Anything else? Fantasy!

[Suff]

We now have May saying that any new vote would break faith with British people. How much more patronising can this despicable woman get?

Giving the ordinary man and woman a say on things is showing trust in them, the exact opposite of what May says. We deserve more of a shout that those 650 air heads in Westminster who cannot decide whether the door is partly open on partly shut.

What May actually means is that giving the public a vote would break her deal once and for all, and we plebs must not be allowed to do that.

Not true at all. What she means is that All Brexit voters would see this as an attempt to overturn their vote.

Everyone condemned the EU for forcing referendum after referendum on both Denmark and Ireland in order to get the result they wanted.

It has already been stated that the UK, should they do this, would be hypocrites as they were the worst for condemning the EU on forcing a referendum again and again with no substantive changes between them.

May is absolutely right.

[Workingman]

Impasse

noun (U)

* a situation in which progress is impossible, especially because the people involved cannot agree.

That is where parliament is with May's deal and no deal - neither is acceptable.

Doing the same thing over and over and over again will not break the impasse, something new has to be tried. The digging in of heels will not solve it, but that is what is happening. Does that meet with the will of the people? Not from what I read in many news outlets.

[medsec222]

Theresa May is so used to swatting away irritations from all sides, that she is becoming an an expert at it. I liked the way she tackled Claude Junker in Brussels when he apparently called her nebulous, What a pity she didn't let fly with her handbag two years ago.

[Workingman]

I watched loads of the debate and it certainly was 'handbags' aimed at May at PMQs. Many of them were wielded by those on her own side, and not all of them were the 'usual suspects'. Some were from her personal supporters but who cannot stomach her deal. Then there was anger oozing from pores all round the house that the meaningful vote has been put off till January and not held this week. One Tory even suggested that the Christmas recess be cancelled.

Labour also came within a gnat's of tabling a no confidence vote and made it known before the debate began. The cat is now officially out of the bag with that so it's a case of watch this space.

[TheOstrich]

The no confidence motion has now been tabled by Labour, but it's a vote of no confidence in the prime minister, not in the government.

Even if it passes, therefore, it won't bring the government down. It is neither fish nor fowl, just another twist in the never-ending saga.

Delaying the Commons vote on the May deal until the w/e 14th January is just taking the mickey, and MPs are right to be angry about it. Never has a prime minister been more discredited, and that includes Blair.