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[Workingman]

And so it begins - more time wasting.

As I understand it May could lose yet by simply taking note of the result she could still carry on.

It now looks more likely that a vote of no confidence in the government will take place when May's deal falls in mid January, but that is very late. It should be done now if it is going to happen

[Suff]

It now looks more likely that a vote of no confidence in the government will take place when May's deal falls in mid January, but that is very late. It should be done now if it is going to happen

It is quite interesting really. If the government falls around W3 Jan, then a general election has to be held. This will take at least 2 months. The Tories will continue as a caretaker government until the election is over, but it will have no authority to change the status quo, no ability to extend A50 and no mandate to revoke it.

This appeals to me greatly as the EU will be well and truly stuck. The EU can't rescind the A50 notification and it cannot, unilaterally, extend it either as the article is quite explicit about extension, the state which has notified has to ask and the EU27 have to approve.

To be brutally honest, after all the games the EU has played to push the UK into a no time scenario with an unchangeable deal, that would be Karma of the very best kind, in my mind.

Once the Government falls in January we are in No Deal terms. May will have to step down, the new Tory leader (which will take time to convene), won't play ball with the EU and the election will take it's own sweet time.

I can't think of a better spectator sport than watching the EU try to justify tearing down a democratic election process, just because it threw a spanner in the works of their own plans. Even better, the election would be of their own making because the Only thing they had to do, in order to avoid it, was to ditch the backstop on NI.

The most amusing thing of all, today, is that we are already at No Deal. It is simple, the EU deal won't pass, the government won't hold a second referendum or repeal A50 (neither will anyone else, truth be told and they are not telling the truth), and the EU simply refuse to change their deal because they think their best chance of surviving Brexit is to drive the UK under with it.

Election in Jan, no election in Jan, we're already at No Deal. I wonder why so many deny it?

[Workingman]

Corbyn is showboating, grandstanding, playing Billy sugars or whatever.

The no confidence vote on the PM does not even have to be called by the government, so it is nothing more that political play acting. If there is to be a no confidence vote it has to be on the government and it needs to be tabled tomorrow for an early vote. It should have been done weeks ago, but hey-ho.

What was also astounding today was that May said, at the lectern, that there were only 14 weeks to go and that parliament had to act... She then immediately cut that down to 10 weeks by delaying the vote on her deal till mid January.

[Suff]

What was also astounding today was that May said, at the lectern, that there were only 14 weeks to go and that parliament had to act... She then immediately cut that down to 10 weeks by delaying the vote on her deal till mid January.

Makes a pretzel look remarkably straight line like doesn't it....

[cromwell]

As I understand it May could lose yet by simply taking note of the result she could still carry on.

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Then why bother. Just silly points scoring.

[victor]

I wonder if we would have had such a mucking fuddle if Remainers had won the Referendum ?

[Workingman]

Don't go there, Vic, it is not worth it.

[Suff]

Don't go there, Vic, it is not worth it.

No, it could probably descend to the lowest level of argument pretty quickly.

We are where we are and second guessing is not going to help much..

[Workingman]

Sheesh!

May deferred (delayed) the vote on her deal - the only one available, allegedly - yet now she wants amendments to it on any deal out there so that MPs can vote on them all. Then what?

The Brexit (slow) express has zoomed past stupid and headed straight for madness.

[medsec222]

I wonder if we would have had such a mucking fuddle if Remainers had won the Referendum ?

If the remainers had won Vic there would be no kerfuffle. There would only be the status quo, so no changes to argue about.

I would like to think that those who voted to leave would have accepted the result of the referendum, albeit it with great disappointment.