Labour civil war breaks out - again.

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Labour civil war breaks out - again.

Postby Workingman » 09 May 2021, 11:23

Angela Rayonor was swiftly sacked as campaign chair and coordinator, and there are rumours that in the reshuffle Anneliese Dodds, Jon Ashworth , Nick Brown and Lisa Nandy could all be replaced by the likes of Hilary Benn, Yvette Cooper and Wes Streeting +1.

That's all well and good as it brings a more cohesive look to the main cabinet with many names that are known - all 32. But what about the 59, manly anonymous junior jobsworths in non-jobs? Are any of them worth promoting?

The main problem for Labour is not the team, it is, as has been said before, the core message. Very few now know what it stands for and many do not agree with the various agendas being pushed forward. That has to be sorted out.

I am not a fan of knee-jerk reshuffles as they often do not address the real issues - this latest will be a case in point.
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Re: Labour civil war breaks out - again.

Postby TheOstrich » 09 May 2021, 13:06

Workingman wrote:Angela Rayonor was swiftly sacked as campaign chair and coordinator, and there are rumours that in the reshuffle Anneliese Dodds, Jon Ashworth , Nick Brown and Lisa Nandy could all be replaced by the likes of Hilary Benn, Yvette Cooper and Wes Streeting +1.


Would that be a move to the Left or the Right? I've rather lost track of who is espousing what these days ...
If it's to the Centre / Right, then I'd say a leadership challenge would certainly be a possibility. After all, the ideologists have got nothing to lose and plenty of time to establish control. Perhaps a sort of Corbynism-Lite?
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Re: Labour civil war breaks out - again.

Postby Suff » 09 May 2021, 21:10

I thought they were Blair era so pretty much centrist.

Good enough to rip the party apart.
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Re: Labour civil war breaks out - again.

Postby Workingman » 09 May 2021, 21:18

Corbynism-Lite is where all the diversity, inclusivity, quotas for this and that, BAME, LGBTQ+ and Bend The Knee stuff came from. These are the agendas now being pushed left, right and centre by the current regime.

Yes, they are important, but they are not the core values shared by ordinary Labour voters. Those are the NHS, social housing, the economy, social care, transport, education, equal opportunities and so on, yet they barely get a mention.

No doubt those things are being worked on in the background, but Labour needs to forcefully put those things to the front, left, right and centre of its policy statements, and shout them out, to have a chance.

I am not sure that Starmer is the person for the job.
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