Masks in school, yes or no?

[cromwell]

No.

[Workingman]

Why 'No'?

[cromwell]

Ineffective. Inhibit communication and distracting.
A symbol that shouts "danger" when healthy children are in no danger. Part of a deliberate psychological campaign.

It's just come up because the girl next door, healthy, confident, outgoing, would not go to school last Thursday and Friday. Because of this. Mask wearing is having an adverse psychological effect on our children.

[Workingman]

Then we should close the schools to protect all the young ones from this disease that does not hurt them and to prevent them being so psychologically wrecked when they do bring it home to hurt mum and dad and bro and sis. If they are not in school, or wearing masks, they cannot hurt anyone: right? We have been endlessly told that schools are breeding grounds and the kids will kill gran and gramps and, maybe, mum and dad. Isn't that the mantra? They cannot both be right.

I'll stick with masks in class.

[Suff]

That was all Pre vaccination.

The vaccines work, the virus is on the path to exit pandemic yet we continue to apply Pre vaccination avoidance actions.

What about the deaf kids? Their rights? None.

The problem is it will take 3 months to statistically prove it beyond doubt.

We have a crisis in the NHS right now, not because staff are sick, but because staff who are healthy and infected are isolating at home.

We have to start taking steps out of the pandemic. Refusal to go beyond the options of plan b was one step. Removing PCR tests for incoming travellers was the next.

Not implementing masks for schoolkids would have been another but, apparently, it is a step too far.

While we wait for solid stats with a good record, the "cautious", or we could say control, crowd are making hay.

There will come a time when NHS staff stop testing for covid. When that happens, staffing will go back to normal.

[Workingman]

But we didn't want to vaccinate under12s, then we wanted to jab them all and send them to school, then we wanted them to wear masks, now we don't. Make your bloody minds up.

Now they are, apparently, psychologically damaged and mentally ill, so say some, but are they? Some of us adults with our woke agendas are their biggest problem - we feed their psychological and mental 'problems'. We want those to exist because it suits our view of the situation.

Being sad because your best mate cannot have a big bash birthday do because of Covid is not a mental problem. Get over yourselves.

[cromwell]

Some of us adults with our woke agendas are their biggest problem - we feed their psychological and mental 'problems'. We want those to exist because it suits our view of the situation.

I think you've just described what the government has been doing. Making them scared because that's what the government wants them (and us) to be

[miasmum]

absolutely Cromwell.

I have had to come home from weekend away, because I am so poorly. Tested negative three times, this virus I caught from Tim, who caught it from Luke is horrible. I have no voice, my sinuses are so painful, my head aches, my neck aches, my muscles ache and cough, cough, cough. But no one gives a flying wotsit about us spreading this left right and centre, but you dare spread the slight symptoms that are omicron.

I am not for one minute downplaying the horrendous effects of Alpha and Delta, they deserved all the isolation and protection we gave. But Omicron seems far far milder, yes of course the vulnerable are at risk, but they are at risk of the common cold, it causes bronchitis in susceptible people and yes people sadly do die every year of complications caused by this, EVERY YEAR!!!!!

Some NHS bod said last week, I have 6 staff off, two with Covid, 4 with something else. Yes probably this horrible thing, but we are made to feel guilty for staying at home because everywhere is struggling so much with positive people staying at home. I will test again today and I would love to test positive, because then I could take the week off, no questions asked and get better, instead because I am how I am I will struggle in.

I did actually post about this the other day, but it got brushed over, because all people want to worry about is flipping covid.

[TheOstrich]

Can I ask, how old is the girl next door Crommers?

I'm not comfortable with primary school children having to mask up in school under any circumstances, but I do think on balance that the young adults at secondary school age, should.
We seem to be getting away from the "bubbles", so I think the frequent and mixed contacts secondary pupils have in moving around classrooms, for example, (which primary children don't) does lend itself to masking up, because you can't really achieve social distancing and reduce the spread that way.

..but we are made to feel guilty for staying at home ..

Well you shouldn't, MM. I take your overall point about attitudes, but I am sure you have the "nous" to know that you do not go out and spread whatever bug it is you've got. I do hope you recover soon.

The point about Omicron is that it is only now that the data is becoming clearer that overall, it is milder than Alpha and Delta, so I would expect to see restrictions being lifted sooner rather than later. Not that we have many onerous restrictions anyway compared to Wales and Scotland; Johnson has gambled and appears to have played it right. But just imagine if Omicron had been much, much worse. With the horrendous number of infections, it might even have been a question of plague carts and bringing out your dead. Doesn't bear thinking about, really.

[cromwell]

Honestly MM, if I were you I'd stay at home, rest and try to get well. If you go back too soon you could put yourself back.
Os, she's thirteen.
I wish I shared your optimism re restrictions. Boris had his arm twisted by his own backbenchers and that's the only reason we aren't locked down right now.
Incidentally, if we had been locked down the locker uppers would be claiming credit for the fall in cases over the last few days.
As it is, no lockdown, no armageddon, no 3,000 deaths a day.