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Re: Should Boris resign?

Postby TheOstrich » 14 Jan 2022, 14:17

The word on the street is that the Sue Gray investigation report will be a whitewash.

Whooda thunkit?

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In other news, I have now emailed my local MP Simon Hoare urging him, as a man of integrity (which I believe he is) to submit a no confidence letter in Johnson to Sir Graham Brady.
And I'm going to urge you folk, if you have a Tory MP, and you genuinely feel enough is enough, to consider doing the same. It's the only way to get the message across, and it's quite easy, using the contact options on your MP's website.
I don't normally put my head over the parapet, but quite honestly, they need to know the mood of the country.
There's also a very sombre clip featuring Iain Dale on LBC News from last night, which my MP has retweeted.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1481758532173287430
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Re: Should Boris resign?

Postby Suff » 14 Jan 2022, 14:46

Who cares? They are accountable to the people. Only once every five years or so, but still accountable.

We need to do what the people did to Major over the Euro when he told the people that they got to vote for the Government once per election and then the government would do exactly that, govern, without asking the people what to do.

Next election the people voted. He was buried by a landslide.

The fact that we can't, apparently, without the press wittering on about it every single day, remember what the government has done, is treating the public like morons with no memory.

Thought you'd be annoyed with that.

It really doesn't matter if it is a whitewash. Well, in fact it does. Because most people are intelligent enough to understand that and put one more mark against the current government at the polls. But it only matter in so much as the result is reported.

Most people have already made up their minds about this, no need to flog the dead horse. Unless you want to make money out of it. It's going to be beaten to a fur rug, then threadbare, then they'll be beating the ground where the hose used to be and the "press watchers" will still be wittering on about it.

Remember, more than a month ago, I said that the government needed to stop testing everyone and move on and only test those who are sick? Now the press is saying..... "the government needed to stop testing everyone and move on and only test those who are sick", as if it is something new and interesting they can sell you.

Move on it's not worth it. It's done.
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Re: Should Boris resign?

Postby Workingman » 14 Jan 2022, 18:11

Suff wrote:Move on it's not worth it. It's done.

Oh you fanboys and girls would like that wouldn't you? Tough! You are going to have to wriggle and squirm till the press and the public have had enough.

Try a week or so after the thorough inquiry (whitewash) is published. We will move on when we decide, not when you 'are slickers' tell us to. Got it?
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Re: Should Boris resign?

Postby Suff » 14 Jan 2022, 19:59

I'm ignoring it.
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Re: Should Boris resign?

Postby Workingman » 14 Jan 2022, 23:58

Suff wrote:I'm ignoring it.

Sand / arse. Insert head in either. Your choice.

We and it are not going away.

Your pin-up boy is toast.
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Re: Should Boris resign?

Postby Workingman » 15 Jan 2022, 16:42

News is breaking that the Johnson has come up with a plan: operation "Save Big Dog" according to the Independent.

The plan apparently consists of two lists. The first has the names of senior officials, civil servants, who will be told to offer their resignations, his name is not on it. The second is a list of his accomplishments as PM that he can sell to the public.

It looks a risky strategy to me. Civil servants will not like their colleagues being lined up as fall guys for the No10 shenanigans even though some might deserve it. And according to the polls about two thirds of the public do not believe a word he says and think he is not fit to be PM.

It also looks like an attempt to pre-empt the Sue Gray inquiry.

A Civil Service strike might well become a reality. Then again many of us do believe that there should be a root and branch clear out in No10 and the Cabinet Office.
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Re: Should Boris resign?

Postby Suff » 15 Jan 2022, 19:55

Workingman wrote:Your pin-up boy is toast.


There is small doubt about that, although there is a bit of doubt.

The main thing is when.

Covid may be a lever. Finish it soon is a feel good factor.

I'll take anything going.
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Re: Should Boris resign?

Postby cromwell » 16 Jan 2022, 09:38

Workingman wrote:It looks a risky strategy to me. Civil servants will not like their colleagues being lined up as fall guys for the No10 shenanigans even though some might deserve it. And according to the polls about two thirds of the public do not believe a word he says and think he is not fit to be PM.


It may be. Then again as the person who organised the infamous "work event" was a senior civil servant, Martin Reynolds, the civil service might be seen to be being a teeny bit hypocritical themselves. Also the two parties at No 10 the night before Prince Philip's funeral were organised and attended by civil servants, Johnson being at Chequers at the time. One leaving do was for Kate Josephs, the woman who led the unit responsible for drawing up Covid restrictions!

So yes, the Civil Service might strike but there would be precious little sympathy for them. Apparently there were regular Friday night "wine o'clock" nights in No 10 throughout. Interesting fact. It is actually Rishi Sunak who lives in No 10, Johnson and Carrie live next door in No 11. I wonder how much Sunak knew as well? A very ambitious gentleman, that.

Anyway as we were mentioning months ago, it is very unlikely that Johnson will lead the Conservatives into the next election; no one can really see him coming back from this. Which raises the possibility of more internecine strife in the Tory party.

It's looking pretty good for Starmer. Stuffed shirt though he may be, all he has to be at the moment is the "I'm not Boris Johnson" candidate.
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Re: Should Boris resign?

Postby miasmum » 16 Jan 2022, 10:28

Him, who has also been found to be at an indoor ‘work event’ with alcohol and 6 others during lockdown?
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Re: Should Boris resign?

Postby victor » 16 Jan 2022, 23:05

Did Starmer forget about his little get together?
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