I have just petitioned the government

[Suff]

On an issue dear to my heart.

Let us see if they accept it. If they don't, I will attempt to raise the issue through other means. If they do I'll post it here as I'll want as many people as possible, who agree, to sign it.

I'm guessing that if they accept it (which I don't think they will), I will have no issue getting over 100,000 signatures. But of course I could be wrong.....

[Aggers]

Have you a link to it ?

[Suff]

Not yet, I'm waiting for them to accept it. There is no petition like it and it requires them to enact a law to ensure British influence in the world.

Sort of making them live up to their words or making Clegg the liar he is....

Which is why they won't accept it I think.

[KateLMead]

You can start one on Petitions suff, you don't need to go to Westm"o"nster!!!

[Suff]

I've started one.

But you only get to submit it. They then take a week to decide if they are going to "allow" it.....

I tried one a while ago and I was told that it was covered with other petitions and it was rejected. This one is certainly not covered by any current petition so let's see what they say.

If they say NO I'll make public what I requested. If they say Yes, I'll post the link and then push it out to everyone I can think of to get behind it.

[Aggers]

This sounds interesting.

Watch this space.

[Workingman]

Let's hope that it gets past the filter/censor..... though why it should take a week is a nonsense excuse on their part. It is not as though they do not know which ones are already open for submissions.

[Suff]

It was set up by Labour. What should we expect? Spin, Spin and more Spin, Control, Control and more Control.

Not that the Tories won’t use it…..

[Suff]

OK it's now a week and I have not heard from our auspicious lot. Although I must admit that they must be busy right now with a rebellion and all. Nothing like the smell of faeces from 100 panicking Tory MP's looking at wafer thin majorities and, potentially, 50% of their votes going to UKIP....

Anyway, I digress.

My petition to the government was one which I did not believe they would allow. Because it would breathe the lie to their Euro BS about needing the EU to retain our influence in the world.

OK so what is it that highlights that BS?

Simply This.

Let me take the preamble.

The permanent members of the United Nations Security Council, also known as the Permanent Five, Big Five, or P5, include the following five governments: China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States. The members represent the great powers considered the victors of World War II.[1] Each of the permanent members has power to veto, enabling them to prevent the adoption of any "substantive" draft Council resolution, regardless of the level of international support for the draft.

Now I'm not always the sharpest tool in the box, but that last part about being able to veto worldwide legislation, on our own, with no other nation required to support us, seems to me to be pretty damned significant power in the world. In fact there are only 15 seats on the UN security council out of 180 countries represented by the UN.

So what part of "Great Power", with "Veto Wielding", "Decision blocking", stand alone rights, among the forum which decides worldwide resolutions for every nation on the planet, does not sound like world influence????

Brazil and India, both with land, populations and economies, either on par or larger than the UK, do not even have representation on the Council. India, a nuclear power, Brazil the industrial heartland of Mercosur and seen to be the leader of Mercosur, has to work through other countries to get its wishes put forward to the uN.

So what did my petition require?

It required the government to enact legislation to automatically secede from the EU in the event that any nation was able to successfully challenge the UK permanent seat on the UN security council. On the basis that the UK was a member state of a country called the European Union and not a Nation State on the world stage.

Why would I ask this? Because it is a foregone conclusion that the UK Must lose that seat. If anyone thinks that India and Brazil are not jockeying for the One seat which will be left after France and Britain lose their two seats to a single EU seat, they are in lala land. Any politician currently in government who does not acknowledge this is lying to themselves and to their electorate.

The Constitution of the EU was very clearly worded. Nation states became Member States. In fact we became that under the Maastricht Treaty but have been able to successfully avoid losing our seat because there is no constitution which backs it up and the EU is not, yet, a reality.

French politicians can assuage their guilt at doing this to France by being sure that they will have more than 1/27th influence on the EU seat. What I wonder, do the UK politicians do to sooth their outright betrayal of the UK people?

I don't think the petition will get through. If it does, great, because the way people see the EU right now, this is just fuel to the fire currently burning. If it doesn't, then I'm going to have to find someone who will stand up and challenge Cameron with exactly this question. How does he justify the loss of the UK permanent seat on the UN security council and how does he see this as increasing UK influence in the world?

[Suff]

The government allowed my petition....

I'm floored.

Also it said they would keep the petitioners details private. But not the name apparently.

So you get to see who I am IRL....

Kindly vote (if you want to, I'm not sure WM will) and pass it on to anyone else you can think of...

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/49790