New super El Nino possible

[Suff]

Hi all. Busy as always, lost 2 stone and well.

Vic, it takes 15,000 years, naturally, to do what we have done in the last 200 years.

Super el nino's are just a marker on the journey.

Off to watch a dvd.

anon.

[cruiser2]

Suff,
Good to see you back.
Is there any connection of the super El Nino with the two earthquakes which have occurred in Chile and Peru recently?
Wish I could lose two stones. I would be back to the weight I was when I was 18.

[moondancer]

I have been reading the reporting from the IPCC's latest survey/research, especially the comments from the public: two things are very apparent.

The first problem is with the description "Global Warming". I never liked it and I said so, I always knew that it would be argued against, and I was right. Come the cold winter of 2010 and people were asking: "So this is Global Warming, give me a break?"

I have never believed one iota in global warming, certainly not man made anyway.

Of course the climate fluctuates; it always has done, always will do.

Our carbon emissions make as much difference to the climate as a gnat's fart.

[Workingman]

I have never believed one iota in global warming, certainly not man made anyway.

Of course the climate fluctuates; it always has done, always will do.

Our carbon emissions make as much difference to the climate as a gnat's fart.

Don't be daft.... you're just trying to wind me up.

Yes, the climate fluctuates; always has and always will, but this time it is different.

Put it this way, Gerge II and his subjects were breathing air the composition of which was much different from today's. He, and all the others on the planet, about 800 million of them, were living a life that had only evolved at a glacial pace for hundreds of years. At that time CO2 was about 275ppmv, but it was a slow start. During WW2 it was about 310 ppmv and there were 2.5 billion of us. It is now 401ppmv, and there are just over 7 billion of us all wanting our share.

All of that increase was not natural, it had to come from somewhere else. That somewhere else was us. We dug up, sucked up and hoovered up as much of the CO2, laid down over millions of years as fossil fuels, as we could; and we did it at breakneck speed. At the same time we chopped away at the planet's lungs - the jungles and forests. We have now got to the point where nearly all the "easy" stuff has been found, so we are looking for new ways to get at the "hard" stuff and we are doing it because we are hooked on it, just like any addict. Add to that the fact that we are still chopping down the trees to make room for crops for ever more of us to eat and we have an unbreakable cycle.

[Aggers]

Our carbon emissions make as much difference to the climate as a gnat's fart.

The scientists of this world would not agree with that statement, Moondancer.
Neither do I. If you read Workingman's last post and think about it seriously, you might change your mind.

[Suff]

The biggest problem we all have to face, when thinking about global warming, is that 7 billion humans on their own cannot change the climate.
However 1 billion humans with machines can. Machines give us a thousand times multiplier to the impact we can have.

Scientists, generally, are only just waking up to this. Climate scientists have been here for a long time now. It has taken time for the rest of the science community to catch up.

Stating that we cannot affect the climate is not science. It is wishful thinking. Nothing more.

[Ally]

Hi Suff - nice to see you, well done on the weight loss and hope you are well.

[Suff]

Hi Ally, I'm fine, just busy.

This week I've rebuilt the kitchen island and put new Oak worktops on it, put a new work surface under the kitchen sink, fitted an instant boiling water spout on the sink and fitted a new over sink light. Today I put in the electrical feed for the top of the house next door, stuck on the new ceiling rose in the library and wired and fitted the light in the library.

Time for tea methinks....

[Diflower]

Definitely time for a sit-down x

[Aggers]

Glad to hear you are back on form, Suff.

But don't overdo it.