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Re: Today is the day.

Postby Paddypix » 22 May 2014, 19:34

It's rather different here in NI where we have a conglomeration of Unionist parties from Official, through all shades of sectarianism to downright bigots. I would never vote UKIP in a general election because I wouldn't want to split the Tory vote and let Labour back in, and also I don't think they are fit for national government, but I did vote for them to go to Europe and also in the local election.

I read this blog this morning. It's Norn Irn politics in a nutshell and as a bonus very funny too.

http://why-not-smile.blogspot.co.uk/201 ... g.html?m=1
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Re: Today is the day.

Postby Workingman » 22 May 2014, 19:41

Not really Ossie.

The UK has agreed not to release its EU results until late Sunday, even though the Netherlands will, so there is not much to report except that the elections took place. That does not stop the media from releasing their rather limited exit polls, but it is not a conspiracy or a fix by the EU/British media the conspiracy theorists would have us believe. We will, however, get the local election results, and they will be revealing.
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Re: Today is the day.

Postby Suff » 22 May 2014, 22:00

Very interesting the official exit poll from the Dutch EU elections.

It seems that far right and openly racists politics with aspirations to ally with FN from France has not gone down well for Geert Wilders. Putting him, according to the poll, in 4th place instead of first.

UKIP, on the other hand, won't ally with openly racist parties and will oust any openly racist people in their own.

UKIP is doing well.

There is a message there somewhere....
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Re: Today is the day.

Postby Suff » 23 May 2014, 08:12

So the voters are in the process of giving all the parties a bloody nose and using the UKIP to do it.

On reflection, those who didn't vote UKIP because they think them racist might want to review the message and what it means.

UKIP are saying that it is NOT OK for those who want to come to the UK, not respect the UK and it's culture, then stay and live off the benefits of the UK. It is also NOT OK for those to inundate the UK jobs and services.

Those who oppose them say that this is RACIST and that no dialogue on this can happen.

Is this Really what you want for your country?

Because there are things worse than those who are intolerant or aggressive to strangers, who are strange either by race, creed or culture. Most of them inhabit Westminster today. Those who would sell out Our Race, Creed and Culture for Power, Position and Money.
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Re: Today is the day.

Postby cromwell » 23 May 2014, 08:39

UKIP have won 10 seats on Rotherham council, taking 8 from Labour and 2 from the Tories.
At the count the comrades were all standing around looking like they'd lost £20 and found 5p.
It's been coming. When you walk into an ex-mining village and see UKIP posters in the window, as I did last week, you realise that it isn't only the Tories who UKIP will take votes from.
Labour are overdue a good kicking round here. Nationally all their recent MP's are posh boys and girls parachuted in above the heads of local candidates; they are recruited from the same social strata as the Conservatives; they are no different.
Locally the quality of Labour councillors is absolutely, honestly dire. The loyalty of Labour voters has just been taken for granted for years.
Plus, immigration.
The more loyal a Labour area you are, the more immigrants you get bussed to your city. Sheffield has had Somalis. Yemenis, Sudanese, Roma as well as half of eastern europe. I think maybe people are cottoning on to that now; and UKIP are the only ones saying, no, this is wrong.
So of course they will get votes.
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Re: Today is the day.

Postby KateLMead » 23 May 2014, 17:06

How right you are Cromwell.
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Re: Today is the day.

Postby Aggers » 23 May 2014, 18:07

Well, I voted for UKIP.

I'd vote for anybody if it would give these present crooked politicians a licking.

I've never known such a useless bunch of people.
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Re: Today is the day.

Postby TheOstrich » 23 May 2014, 18:32

In the post-mortem phase, I'm somewhat disappointed that Ukip didn't do better. Much better. These election results are nothing like a game-changer.

I was hoping a really strong showing might have brought it right home to the LibLabCons how far they were disconnected from the public. But these results won't. It'll be "yada, yada, yada," but nothing will change. The Tories only have to fight the next election on a scare-mongering "Vote Ukip and you'll get a Lab/Gibbering Lemoncrat coalition" and the Ukip support will simply melt away ...... :(
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Re: Today is the day.

Postby victor » 23 May 2014, 21:26

so Farage is quoted as saying ---he did'nt do very well in London because the people are "more media savvy & better educated than elsewhere", so that shows what he thinks of his supporters outside London-ha ha
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Re: Today is the day.

Postby Workingman » 24 May 2014, 08:45

The results are interesting.....

The Conservatives lost 201 councillors, but 11 councils. That shows how marginal some of its councils must have been.

The LibDems lost 284 councillors, but only two councils. A lot of its losses must have come in councils where it was only marginally represented.

Labour gained nearly 300 councillors, where it could have expected 450+ under normal circumstances, but in doing so it only gained 6 of the 13 councils lost by the ConDems.

UKIP, the Greens and 'Others' gained 193 councillors between them, with UKIP going from two to 157.

NOC gained seven councils out of the 13 lost by the ConDems, pushing Labour into second place in that race.

So, maybe not an "earthquake", but a change in the political lnadscape nonetheless.
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