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Re: Paedophiles rule Westminster.

Postby Workingman » 08 Jul 2014, 09:40

Just because Theresa May stands up in the HoC and announces such and such does not make it the truth, and therein lies the problem.

And what is a "dossier"? Is it chapters 1 to 10 fully bound and to be read as a book, or could it be chapters 1 to 10 delivered as weekly instalments, but still intended to be read as a book, or if the chapters are delivered individually do they get relegated from "dossier" to the status of "letters/files"?

There is now a lot of evidences, much of it admittedly circumstantial, that these events took place and that senior figures were involved over a period (allegedly) of 20 to 30 years, so it is not an attack on Maggie's government. There is a worry that the culture(s) at the time, in the police, NHS, Social Services, Westminster..... were to hush-up, minimise or even ignore the allegations of abuse victims.

It is already known that Harman, Dromey and Hewitt were, at best, neutral in their dealings with PIE when they were in positions to bring it down, so Labour is also in the spotlight. And the LibDems, with Jeremy Thorpe and Cyril Smith, are also not in the clear.

If it takes a public inquiry to clarify the circumstances surrounding such serious accusations as are currently being made then what is the problem?

And Suff, if you are a suspicious GOM, then so am I, but from a different POV.
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Re: Paedophiles rule Westminster.

Postby KateLMead » 08 Jul 2014, 10:35

Do you really think that the Cons are the only ones in need of being shamed and blamed Suff. Remember the Labour mob kept PIE well and truly under cover when B'Liar was in power!!
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Re: Paedophiles rule Westminster.

Postby Suff » 08 Jul 2014, 10:45

Dear God NO...

But what I see is the coalition being named and shamed in the press and little or nothing being said about Labour. Granted the Lib Dems deserved it.

But a picture is being built here. Lib Dem abuse of knowledge to allow Smith to carry on with his abuse without being brought to Justice (actual). Tories in receipt of information 3 decades ago which they abused and did nothing with (allegedly).

Labour? Silence.

Which is what is annoying me. The press is complicit. No doubt in May they will wail and bemoan a Labour victory in the polls.

Meanwhile perverts will feel the wind of justice striking away from them. Hopefully it will take a few with it when it does, but many more may feel secure in this smear campaign.
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Re: Paedophiles rule Westminster.

Postby cromwell » 13 Jul 2014, 10:17

Suff wrote:But what I see is the coalition being named and shamed in the press and little or nothing being said about Labour. Granted the Lib Dems deserved it.

But a picture is being built here. Lib Dem abuse of knowledge to allow Smith to carry on with his abuse without being brought to Justice (actual). Tories in receipt of information 3 decades ago which they abused and did nothing with (allegedly).

Labour? Silence.

Yes, I think much of this is politically motivated, and it's a very dirty trick.

I would include the Leveson inquiry in this, too. News of the World, which supports the Tories? Shut down. The Daily Mirror supports the Labour party. There were many allegations about phone hacking at the Mirror when Piers Morgan was the editor. Of how it spent £450,000 on private investigators to get stories for them. Was the Leveson inquiry interested in investigating the Mirror? No.
Why not?

Then we have the ongoing paedophile investigations from the 80's (when the Tories were in power), the Hillsborough inquiry (ditto), the policing of the Orgreave coking plant during the miner's strike (ditto)...

Did paedophiles never operate when the Labour party were in power?

ETA - Tom Watson MP.
He was one of the leading lights of the Leveson inquiry.
He was one of Gordon Brown's inner circle (along with Damien McBride, who had to resign after his antics in trying to smear a Tory female MP cam ro light).
Tom Watson MP has also alleged that there "may have been" a "high level" paedophile ring operating around Westminster, around oooh, the 1980's, when Margaret Thatcher was in power.

ETA also, Today the Labour-supporting Sunday People has alleged that Margaret Thatcher "personally covered up" the sexually abusive behaviour of one of her inner circle.

This is about as dirty and low as politics can get; using the sexual abuse of children as a weapon to attack your political enemies.

But that is the Labour party of today - dirty and low.
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Re: Paedophiles rule Westminster.

Postby Aggers » 13 Jul 2014, 22:06

cromwell wrote:But that is the Labour party of today - dirty and low.


Not only the Labour Party, may I add.

There are a lot of 'dirty and low' people about, and always has been.
but it would seem that there are more about now than ever before.
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Re: Paedophiles rule Westminster.

Postby Suff » 14 Jul 2014, 13:37

More than enough of them. Sadly. I just think we get to see more of them and their attitudes today. Harder to hide, a bigger target more easily brought down when they upset the wrong person.

I'm just sick and tired of Labour getting a free ride on this and nobody calling them on it.

Ethics are OK but if someone is a lying scumbag sleazeball then call them on it.... That is the correct and appropriate answer. Simply pointing out how "wrong they are" no longer elicits the correct response in the public. You just about have to tar and feather them to get the right response.
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