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Re: UKIP cards on the table

Postby Suff » 27 Sep 2014, 08:17

It seems to me that someone in the UKIP party is picking up on broken promises and cross party directions.

I'd love to see fathers who are truly kept away from their children to get access and I've seen both sides of the CSA debate. Where I've seen one husband literally crucified by the CSA even though his wife was quite capable of working and two others simply let off with next to nothing. In fact my daughters EX, who physically abused her, was more than £10,000 in arrears and they did nothing. He had flat screen TV's, quad bikes, latest PSx games machines, she had nothing that we did not give her, or the two grandchildren. Throughout he had full access and the Scottish courts (much more advanced on this than the English courts), demanded he had that access and refused to link anything to CSA as it was "not their problem".

Finally my daughter was back in work, self employed. We told her to get herself to her MP and tell him that the CSA was endangering her attempt to get herself off benefits. After more than a decade, the CSA applied the full weight of their powers and he now pays, fully. It took the MP 3 weeks.

This same scum of the earth took my Granddaughter to Ibiza this year with his current partner and their child. Because his partner was tired and went to bed with the other child, he took my 10 year old granddaughter to a nightclub and then got himself so drunk that he passed out in the toilets, leaving my Granddaughter standing outside the toilets in a nightclub in Ibiza. Fortunately the extremely concerned staff looked after her, got her back to the hotel and into her bed.

50:50 option? The only one I'd like to give him is die:die.

So whilst I'm 100% behind fathers access to their children, it has to be very carefully done.

I just hope Farage is able to take some of the Labour seats in the North. I read recently that there is a grass roots deal going on with the UKIP and the Tory backbenchers. If a Tory back bencher will publicly back EU exit in the 2017 referendum, then they will not contest the seat. Apparently the Tory party mechanism is really, really worried about this. Personally I think they should be more worried about the alternative.

There is only one reason that the Tory party should be worried about this kind of deal. That being that they have guaranteed to the EU that they will fully support the EU in any referendum... Well perhaps it is time for a little more democracy and a little less politics....
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Re: UKIP cards on the table

Postby Kaz » 27 Sep 2014, 08:50

Suff that is dreadful :shock: :shock: Thank goodness she was ok :?

I have my own thoughts on the CSA, my ex and I tried to do without them but as he was on benefits they came after me as supposedly the 'absent' parent and I ended up paying twice for a while - not good times :? :(
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Re: UKIP cards on the table

Postby KateLMead » 27 Sep 2014, 15:41

As Kaz has stated Suff. Unbelievably shocking. The Law like everything else in this country is an ASS.
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Re: UKIP cards on the table

Postby Suff » 28 Sep 2014, 07:57

Fortunately she now lives in England and her mother has full custody. It is possible for him to be denied access. In Scotland, even with this horrendous action (he's a functioning alcoholic), there would be almost no way to stop him either seeing his daughter or taking her away on holiday. The courts are completely set up against it.

So, as I said, great care needs to be taken with this. No Knee Jerk activity of which our parliaments are all to given to these days.
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Re: UKIP cards on the table

Postby Workingman » 28 Sep 2014, 10:45

I see that the Tories have lost another MP to UKIP. Yesterday Mark Reckless swapped sides, resigned as an MP causing a by election, and will contest it for UKIP.
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Re: UKIP cards on the table

Postby pederito1 » 28 Sep 2014, 11:13

Reckless indeed but it will at least be an indicator for next May.
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Re: UKIP cards on the table

Postby cromwell » 28 Sep 2014, 12:13

Come the next election I'm voting for UKIP. My village has been gerrymandered into a constituency which is traditionally rock solid Labour. The Tories will never win it but UKIP will certainly drop Labour's majority next year.
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Re: UKIP cards on the table

Postby KateLMead » 29 Sep 2014, 07:28

cromwell wrote:Come the next election I'm voting for UKIP. My village has been gerrymandered into a constituency which is traditionally rock solid Labour. The Tories will never win it but UKIP will certainly drop Labour's majority next year.



Here's Hoping Cromwell. This country and Westminster need a massive mental electric shock. We have only ever been told what Westminster thinks is good for us mostly misleading lies, I read in yesterday's news of the properties costing millions are being given to immigrants to live in who are renting them out as holiday lets making millions from mega. Rich Arabs. And the likes. Get Farage's feet firmly entrenched in Westminster only then is "The chance of Change"
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Re: UKIP cards on the table

Postby pederito1 » 29 Sep 2014, 15:38

It is too easy to make promises but another matter to carry them out if you get in a position to do so. Or have we at last found a politician we can trust :?:
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Re: UKIP cards on the table

Postby Workingman » 29 Sep 2014, 15:46

pederito1 wrote:...... have we at last found a politician we can trust :?:

Possibly, possibly not, but if he goes half way on half of his promises he will be the most truthful politician than I can remember.
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