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Re: The law of unintended consequences.

Postby Workingman » 28 Feb 2020, 18:00

cromwell wrote:[
Suff wrote:You forgot to add net 0 CO2 by 2050 to your list..

Yes. Passed June 2019 without any costing being done. No long term planning done for that, WM!

No! Plucked straight out of Faceache and Twitbook because it was trending and sounded good.

This really is one where very few of us will be about to see how it goes... or how much it will cost!
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Re: The law of unintended consequences.

Postby Suff » 29 Feb 2020, 05:55

Workingman wrote:
I do not have a problem with long term plans so long as they are analysed, alternatives debated, pulled to pieces, reassembled and analysed again the the nth. All of that has to be done by people in the know and not civil servants or special political advisers with degrees in origami and classics.



They have, sadly. Their assessment was that unless we reduced emissions to net zero and kept CO2 under 360ppm we were royally screwed. Anything over that and it just increased the screwedness.

Target date?

About 2000.

Today we are over 410ppm CO2 and heading for 450 at the fastest rate in the record (since the 1950's).

There is plenty of evidence that we need to do it, how is another matter. That should be reviewed. My take is that economic sanctions should be a tool too with China, India, the US and a whole raft of growing nations in the crosshairs.
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Re: The law of unintended consequences.

Postby cromwell » 29 Feb 2020, 21:09

TheOstrich wrote:It would suit the Government's current narrative to build an additional runway at Birmingham rather than Heathrow.


Mm. I don't understand though. If the third runway at Heathrow got rejected because of carbon emissions etc, then how can you build any runway anywhere else in the UK? Because that will generate carbon too. as will any more roads, or docks for ships or lines for diesel trains.
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Re: The law of unintended consequences.

Postby Workingman » 29 Feb 2020, 21:45

cromwell wrote:Mm. I don't understand though. If the third runway at Heathrow got rejected because of carbon emissions etc, then how can you build any runway anywhere else in the UK? Because that will generate carbon too. as will any more roads, or docks for ships or lines for diesel trains.

Therein lies the Law of UC.

You bring in a popular law, dare I say a "populist" one to meet a perceived need. Then later you want to do something practical and necessary and you are screwed by what you did to be everyone's bestie. Hard lines.
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