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Re: English or British.

Postby KateLMead » 15 Mar 2015, 17:09

Well I am English 100 percent, I object to being forced to use the word British to placate foreigners who have been lucky enough to step onto the welcome mat and be given the title of British citizens, if they pass the mediocre test.
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Re: English or British.

Postby Kaz » 15 Mar 2015, 17:58

I do think of myself as English, but am of course a British citizen. I don't have a problem with that.
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Re: English or British.

Postby KateLMead » 15 Mar 2015, 18:21

Kaz wrote:I do think of myself as English, but am of course a British citizen. I don't have a problem with that.


May we be allowed to refer to ourselves as such Kazxxxx
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Re: English or British.

Postby Workingman » 15 Mar 2015, 18:32

I honestly do not see what the difference is.

My passport says The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It mentions nothing about Scotland, Wales or England. As for the diversity questionnaires, I usually put 'Other' on those times I can be bothered to fill them in. They are, after all. optional.
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Re: English or British.

Postby miasmum » 15 Mar 2015, 18:32

So Kare if you are English 100% what should be husband call himself as he is half Welsh?

My grandad was half Irish too.
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Re: English or British.

Postby Suff » 15 Mar 2015, 18:57

Similar issues for me. My paternal great grandfather was a Welshman and my great grandfather on my mothers side was (my mother assures me), a Scottish smuggler....

Were I still the track and field athlete I used to be, I could compete for either England or Scotland, but not Wales.

That, to my mind, makes me British, regardless of where I was born and it is much simpler for me to call myself British when abroad, which I am so much.

However, that being said, I am totally against anyone who tries to stop English, Scots, Welsh or Irish from declaring their nationality. As far as I'm concerned that is a "right" they were born with and to me it supersedes all these so called "rights" that have been layered on our society. If you can't get the basic rights correct, then why try and bother with the rest.
There are 10 types of people in the world:
Those who understand Binary and those who do not.
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Re: English or British.

Postby Workingman » 15 Mar 2015, 20:26

I still do not get it.

My grandfather, on one side, was Scottish, from Ayrshire. My grandmother was Irish from near Ashbourne north of Dublin, as was my mother. My grandfather, on the other side, was born in Fleetwood and my grandmother came from Gdansk in Poland. So what the hell am I?

I was born in England, but feel more British than anything else. In many ways I sometimes feel more European than English or British having spent a lot of my life there.

The whole issue is relative to one's own personal feelings.
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Re: English or British.

Postby KateLMead » 16 Mar 2015, 07:20

Your happy Frank, join the crowd! As a nation we have lost the pride of being referred to as "Great Britain ".
Well I am "English" and I will fight for my right to retain that title and to be referred to as such, I resent being told by government authorities or whomsoever that I can no longer refer to my heritage as such.
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Re: English or British.

Postby Aggers » 16 Mar 2015, 22:55

I consider myself to be ENGLISH.

(Real English)
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Re: English or British.

Postby Workingman » 16 Mar 2015, 23:37

But John, my grandparents were Scottish, Irish, Polish and English, and I was born in Leeds of an Irish mother and an English father.
To all intents and purposes I am English, but what am I culturally?

Grandma, on Dad's side, and Grandpa, on Mum's side, died before I was born. Granddad, on dad's side, was buried at sea as he was a fisherman, but when my Irish Grandma died we had a proper Irish wake at home.

As far as I am concerned I am from the British Isles, and that includes Eire. I am not really from any country.
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