The dark side of Fifty Shades

[Osc]

We have just come to the end of an awful trial over here, the details of which are quite disgusting, revolting and extremely perverted. Some of the evidence was so terrible that the judge cleared the public from the court three times during the course of the trial, the first time this has ever been done in Ireland. For anyone who thinks that Fifty Shades was a bit of harmless SM fun, just google Graham Dwyer, but I warn you, it is very hard to read.

[TheOstrich]

I've just read Fiona Gartland's article in the Irish Times covering the background to the case, Osc. It doesn't spell out the details of the final denouement, but certainly sets the scene. She obviously had huge mental health issues, poor lass; he sounds like a complete monster.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-an ... -1.2156173

[Osc]

Very sad indeed, Ossie, that poor young woman and the families whose lives have been ruined forever.

[cromwell]

Just horrible.

[saundra]

There are some very sick twisted people out there

Nobody is safer these days

[Suff]

Reading the transcripts in the different papers shows me two things. One he was a first class predator who recognised that what he wanted was wrong and also that he wanted it all.

Two, there are a lot of vulnerable people out there (mostly women, but not all), who are preyed on by these predators.

Having lost his first wife and child through his bizarre appetites, he clearly hid his desires in order to marry and have more children with the idyllic lifestyle, then he used the internet to seek out others to carry out his desires on.

To me that's premeditated murder and, were it up to me, he would hang.

The biggest change today is that people can meet, talk and act out their fantasies without actually seeing each other. All via the internet. Then, as things progress, they can meet in person. This is different from decades gone by where it would be much more difficult for these predators to find their victims as the opportunities were less.

Personally I'm somewhat sickened by BDSM and I can't understand people who go in for it. A friend of mine, who I have known for quite a long time, mentioned recently that he was searched at the airport and his "handcuffs" were seen. Then he grinned and said "handcuffs can be fun in the bedroom". Personally I kept my own counsel, because my thoughts were (for you or for her?), because in my estimation he would never wear them.

I don't see how you could close down these internet sites because there is a genuine need, in some cases, for people to explore their darker side. But how do you ensure the murderous predators are kept out? I have an innate distrust of anyone who wants to impose their will on someone else in such a way, even if it is "just a bit of fun" as they might say.

I don't think that society has become "more" depraved. I just think the depraved in society now have a bigger audience. This is where the lack of a death penalty simply doesn't work. This kind of person doesn't want to die for their perversions. Therefore we should give them an incentive not to carry them out.

[Osc]

Good post Suff. This evening we watched a programme about it, Mr Osc had not followed the case as I had and really had not paid much attention when I talked about it, so a lot of the detail was new to him. They re enacted the victim's last walk to meet her killer, she was missing for just about a year when her remains were found, and by enormous coincidence, as she was being found and identified, various objects belonging to her were bring taken from a reservoir in Co. Wicklow. The police did an amazing job in the whole case.