Cecil

[TheOstrich]

and preferably an African jail
not the first time he has killed outside of "correct" hunting area

Yes, I believe there was an incident with a bear he killed in Wisconsin, but I don't know the details. I think he had his hunting licence revoked for a period?

As for what happens next, I agree, I hope he does get extradited and an African jail would be most appropriate. Americans and their obsession with guns .... 'nuff said.

[moondancer]

As I said, I heard this second hand.

BTW, anyone who hunts also includes all the people who shoot deer and grouse in Scotland. There is no difference in the end, you are killing animals which can't fight back.

There are two big differences actually Suff.

1. These animals are killed for food .

2. Deer in Scotland have to be culled regularly otherwise they proliferate in such numbers that there is no food for them and they starve to death.

[Kaz]

As a meat eater it would be hypocritical of me to criticise those who hunt for food, so I don't. Suff, there is a huge difference!

This awful man has also shot a rhino in the past When I saw the photo I actually groaned out loud Rhino are soooo rare these days

[Aggers]

To my mind, there is something primeval about the 'sport' of killing any animals
other than for food, or for the safety of humans.

The case in question is an example of a perverted mind of the lowest type, and
deserves to be punished.

[Suff]

I'll agree with you on that one Kaz, anyone who shoots a Rhino needs shooting. Although it is humans who have driven them to near extinction.

Moonie I might agree with you except I know that the vast majority of people who come to shoot game in the UK don't eat the food. Yes the animals which are shot are used for food, but generally not by those who shoot them. Witness the Finns who fly over and shoot for a week. They're not flying the meat back.

So, to me, the mindset is the same. I know that the deer herds have to be culled or they will starve, but it does not change the mindset of the people who come to shoot them. They pay good money into the economy but they are not really that much different from those who hunt big game.

The Glenshee herd is pretty tame when it's in an area where they know they are safe. Mrs S and I have fed them by hand in the White Mounth area. They even come over and snatch food.

I just don't like double standards and if I think they are being applied then I challenge them. In this case it looks like the person at fault is the hunter. It's not always the case. Hunting is big business and governments tend to look the other way for the money.

[cromwell]

Apparently after being shot with the arrow the lion was tracked for two days before being killed with a rifle.

[Workingman]

The Scottish deer thing is interesting.

There appear to be two things going on: a hunt and a cull.

The hunt brings in £millions for hunting estates and the cull cuts down deer numbers. In some places deer are a pest destroying upland, moorland and forests. On hunting estates they are shot for 'sport'. Either way, the meat is sold on for human consumption.

Deer calves can be predated by foxes and eagles, but since the extinction of Scottish wolves the adults have no natural predators except humans. I read that wolves, lynx and possibly bears, could be reintroduced in some areas as a means of natural control.

I would pay good money to watch wolf packs, bear and lynx in the wild if that were possible.

[victor]

stupid imo,bears wolves? in Scotland .okay til a human is killed-then open season

[Workingman]

Why Vic?

There are places in Europe, much more densely populated than parts of Scotland, where boar, bears, lynx and other animals roam freely.

We are not talking Grizzly bears and mountain lions.

[Suff]

Bears and Lynx yes. Although bears of any size can be a real nuisance.

Scotland is not like England. The Glens and mountains of Scotland are open for all, free to walk and free to wild camp. Waking up to a bear ripping through your tent for the food which is not in bear proof containers is not going to fly and as Vic says, open season.

Wolves are another thing altogether. Wolves hunt in packs and are a serious problem for lone humans. Lone humans walk the hills and mountains of Scotland every year. Anyone who want's to introduce wolves is off their rocker, Scotland is not like Alaska, Canada or even the Arctic circle.. Whilst it is wild it is also domesticated. As such it is treated as domesticated. Whilst the population is low, the impact would be like putting wolves in the Southern English countryside.

I often wonder just what some of these people are thinking.