I'm getting tired of this

[Suff]

This week in Calais, under a court order, the police and service workers started taking down the southern part of the jungle. The police had to use tear gas and they were stoned, buildings were burned and, pretty much, a riot ensued.

Yesterday, on the Greek Macedonian border, tear gas had to be used to stop illegals (I refuse to call them immigrants they are criminals), from breaking down the fence barrier between the two countries.

Now here's the thing. If the French courts decided that my home in France was illegal and they were going to bulldoze it, then I set light to some properties either side and threw stones at the police, I'd be shot, jailed, brought up in court and put away for 35 years.

Ditto trying to break down a national border and illegally invade a countries space.

What is being done with these illegals? They're getting another home and food and money and comfort.

What the hell are we teaching these people? They already think that violence is the only response to not getting what they want and we're rewarding them for it.

This can only end one way. Very badly indeed. The Dutch have already communicated that at least 30 people applying for asylum are wanted for crimes ranging from murder to mass murder and crimes against humanity. Yet they are just wandering all over the EU virtually unhindered. All because there is a war going on in Syria!

Personally I think the problem is that we have been without war so long that two generations have grown up without the need to understand what basic security is.

That's what happened to Rome when the barbarian hordes beat the armies and came through the front door. Then end result is always the same.

It's wearying.

[KateLMead]

I feel heartbroken for the children, babies in arms, little ones,no feeling human being can see the filth, desperation, and living conditions they are suffering and not get emotional, and the situation they are in will affect them for life. Some of the trouble makers on these camps are English, groups from The UK who have gone out from here stirring up trouble.i would like to think the mothers and children have priority the rest should be returned to their own countries to sort out their own countries problems, and the Gang masters should have their boats and money confiscated. We have seen little concern from authorities with respect to these criminals placing these men women and children's lives at risk.

[Suff]

When you read the press you realise the scale of both the problem and the attitudes.

Families dragging their children into hell. Why? Because their parents are in Germany, that’s why. The father with pregnant wife about to drop, 2 year old daughter and 10 month old son.

“What am I supposed to do?” He says.

Well let me tell him what he’s supposed to do. Work out how contraception works. Stay in the camps in Turkey (or look for other accommodation and a job) and stay until his son and new born child are able to travel. Then apply for Asylum to join his parents, then get on a plane and meet them.

What does he do? None of the above, he drags a heavily pregnant wife, 2 year old daughter and a baby boy hundreds of miles, in winter, over unforgiving country. When his wife or his children die he’ll blame us for closing the borders he should never have attempted to cross in the first place.

No, NO and absolutely NO again. This is exactly what I’m talking about. Merkel’s German Kindness has taken in 1m people and dragged 2.5 million people on the same path to a country which does not want them and won’t take them. Now it’s clear that Merkel has bitten a chunk off a shark and is looking down the business end of a seriously pissed off creature, the interconnecting countries are rapidly shutting their borders so they don’t wind up with millions of illegals sitting in their country refusing to integrate and demanding to go somewhere else.

This is exactly what I was saying. Take those “poor” children from the camps in Calais and you will put 5 more in their place in more misery with more devastation and more deaths.

It takes strength, not weakness, to realise that giving in to blackmail just puts more illegals in the hands of the smugglers and in the camps. Note I say illegals and not innocents. They know they are breaking the laws, they know what they are doing is illegal, they don’t care. That makes them complicit, not innocent…..

Read that article and the reasons that people are not staying in Turkey to wait out the conflict and make a short term life before returning to their homes and rebuilding. They don’t want to, they want someone else to “give” them a home and an opportunity rather than making that for themselves where they have the right to do it.

How many more of our own children do we need to put on the streets to accommodate people who have chosen to put their own children in this mess??

[Workingman]

The media, politicians, aid agencies, rabble rousers and the illegals themselves are all feeding us versions of events to suit their agendas. When TV crews and politicians turn ou they are surrounded by women and children with their sob stories. We hear that it is inhumane, unhealthy, degrading and insulting for them to be forced to live in such atrocious conditions: but wait.

Nobody has "forced" any of them to be there, they are there of their own accord. They have made a free choice to be there. The other thing is the lack of males surrounding the cameras. This is odd unless you think about it. Some figures say that getting on for 90% of the inhabitants are single males, many in the 18 to 34 age groups. Where are they when the cameras come round? It's simple, they go into hiding. Their presence would ruin the sob story and the sympathy vote would go out of the window.

I saw through this a long time ago and it is why my sympathy is somewhat reduced.