Do you still think the same? "We are not at war"

[KateLMead]

These latest atrocities occurring in Brusells is just the beginning, and any one who thinks we are "Not at war" have their eyes closed.. I have put a film of Muslims marching through London on my Facebook, the threats of their intentions and rhetoric made my hair stand on end.. As this unafraid enemy loudly informed us of their intentions to destroy the English and to control and take over this country, what did our police force do,? "Absolutely NOTHING"...I believe the fact some of us want out of the EU presents a problem to those across the waterthe next thing will be a call up of all military from all EU countries in the attempt to quell the invasion we are facing.

[Workingman]

I have never not thought that we were at war.

I find it odd that the police will turn up mob-handed to any BNP or EDL gathering, but they leave the Moslems alone. I think that politics, the media and police are riddled with political correctness which stops them from acting without fear of favour.

[medsec222]

I find it very disturbing that we are not all required to abide by the same standards. Why should some groups be censured but not others?

[Aggers]

I think we will soon live to regret the actions of those stupid people in the past who have been blind to
the threat that now faces this country

There is nothing wrong with being suspicious and wary of foreigners. It is a perfectly natural attitude, that
has been part of human culture since time began. I think it is horrifying to travel through certain parts of
the West Midlands. One gets the feeling that this is not England at all, and I would never think of alighting
there. It was mentioned on TV the other night that there were now many dozens of non-Christian churches
in Wolverhampton. This used to be a Christian country. I just cannot understand the mentality of politicians
in the past who have allowed our country to be invaded in this manner. It wouldn't have been so bad if the
requirement to live by our standards had been one condition of their admission to our land. What the future
holds now I dread to think. As Kate says, we really are at war, and a war like no other in the past has been.
There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

[KateLMead]

I cannot believe that anyone can think we are "not at war", there is more to come and the carnage will be in UK.equally i cannot believe that known Jihadists are allowed to walk free our streets screaming threats and abuse "and the police do nothing."
We must not offend them and "Their Uman Rites" we are told...We need to get our house in order, once the attacks and carnage start it will be too late. I dread the fact my daughter travels too and from London every week where she works. And I am horrified
at the softly softly attitude of the authorities. Time to stop being complacent.

[Suff]

I have been wondering, over the last few years, what would happen if, for instance:

A large portion of the Leeds Bradford community were to knock off a local barracks and ammunition dump, take the military equipment they have gained and head out in a star shape taking over every barracks and ammunition dump they can in the next 12 hours.

Then they knock off every bank in their circle of influence.

They then declare an Islamic state and take all the population in their influence into custody, hold them hostage and start advancing in the directions of least resistance.

Within 48 hours the entire structure of the UK could be in total upheaval with millions of civilians held hostage, wealth confiscated and a military dug in and willing to sacrifice their lives to hold on to it at all costs.

What would we do next? How many more hundreds of thousands would flock to their banner?

Think it can't happen? It already has. Just ask the Syrians, Kurds, Iraqi's, Tunisians and Libyans....

This is not an idle daydream. It is a real threat. People who have gone to Syria and Iraq have been involved and even trained in exactly those situations. The IS has heavy weapons, tanks and armoured personnel carriers. Perfect for training an insurgency. Even better for IS, Britain is cut off from easy reinforcement by the EU unlike the open landmass of the rest of the EU.

We may not yet be at open war. But we come closer every year.

[Workingman]

Hmm, an interesting take.

Living in Leeds I know of four barracks/depositories. Two of them are in central positions in what might now be described as 'communities'. I have no idea what Bradford has, but I assume a similar situation.

As a reservist I was 'invited' to attend my local barracks, which has its own armoury. I can tell you now that it was not particularly secure. If anyone gets in they can availed themselves of SLRs, Sterling SMGs, SA80s, LMGs, grenades, mortars and all sorts of other ordnance.

It is not out of bounds to think that one of these places, in any town or city, will be under threat if the dung hits the fan.

[KateLMead]

OMG. We are getting closer Suff, I canno believe that anyone could think we are not in the firing line and what you and Frank have stated in your posts are too near the mark for comfort in my opinion..it would be interesting to know how many immigrants now live in UK, and how large is our own population at "this time!". Of course I do not think every Muslim wants what is happening in Europe or the Middle East that I put down initially to the invasion of Iraq " on a pack of lies thanks to that dispicable Tony B'Liar who opened the flood gates out of spite. We are told that our country is safe thanks to our monitoring,can someone explain how this conclusion has come about when we see openly and without fear marchers proclaiming, screaming their intentions to destroy every Englishman woman and child, Mosques where radicals preach hatred for the country that has given them sanctuary, and they even are given space on the BBC, When and if they are brought to book they declare their human rights that allow "them " freedom of speech whereas we are not. I think the BMP is a despicable bunch of rabble rousers.. "They are brought in line"I have yet to see the radicals who scream abuse being treated the same way.

[TheOstrich]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/m ... s-brussels

I cannot see why we have not arrested and interred all those that the UK security forces know have returned from Syria since the inception of Isis. To leave them free in this country, whether under surveillance or not, is a potentially disasterous error. The Americans interred all their West Coast Japanese civilians after Pearl Harbour; we need to do similar. Then, no more pussy footing around, bomb Isis in Iraq and Syria into oblivion.

I'd have no objection to Theresa May suspending Human Rights legislation as an emergency measure. It's going to come to that sooner or later, best get on with it now in the light of Paris and Brussels ....

[Workingman]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/25/isis-plans-export-chaos-europe-paris-brussels

I cannot see why we have not arrested and interred all those that the UK security forces know have returned from Syria since the inception of Isis. To leave them free in this country, whether under surveillance or not, is a potentially disastrous error.

Exactly!