The Calais children

[Aggers]

I consider myself to be a caring, kindly person who would gladly help anyone in difficulty
if it were possible to do so, but I do insist that they are genuine people who do not have
ulterior motives. But, at the same time I do care deeply about this country of my birth,
to quote the Bard, this blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England. I can see that
the present situation regarding emigration could be disastrous for England unless a firm
stand is made to make our borders secure.

[Kaz]

Beautifully put Aggers xxx

[Suff]

My position is totally different and always has been. We have a moral duty to stop this influx of children to the EU. Even over all the other reasons I have given there is one much more important reason which I have stated over and over again.

There are 2.4 million in camps in Turkey. There are 24 million displaced within Syria itself. Over and above that less than one third of these children are from Syria.

So if we take this 3,000 we put 150,000 more at risk as their families, quite literally, sell them into the hands of the people traffickers. Of whom a percentage are also slavers, in the belief that these children will gain them access to a better life.

If I did not believe this, then over and above all my other issues with the dishonesty surrounding these children, both from their families and from the NGO's and the other governments, I would be inclined to take them.

But I could not make that decision knowing that it would put hundreds of thousands more children in danger.

Let's face it. If the French authorities were doing their job, those "Legal Minors" would be in care right this second. After all, no country in the EU takes into account the "wishes of the minor". Let's say 3,000 children in the UK upped sticks from abject poverty and then squatted in London demanding a better deal.

We'd let them, of course, wouldn't we?????

There is no difference here. To give in to blackmail is tantamount to murdering all those others who are only held back by the uncertainty that these 3,000 won't be let into the UK.

That is how I see it. I'm not heartless. Far from it. I can just see far enough to know that the laws of unintended consequences mean thousands of dead children if we do.

[KateLMead]

Can any of you look at the horror that these "abandoned" little ones are going through,often with and older "young one caring for them, comforting them" yes there are those who are using them to get into Europe. It has been said that women have disappeared countless have been raped leaving little ones behind. Keep adults "OUT". I say "Let's take little ones in." This Government of ours is CORRUPT as are 99 percent of the self serving crooks in Westminster and authorities elsewhere the few who voted to shelter the little ones are probably the only honest caring ones out of the bunch . My view remains the same as a mother ( probably not the best in the world) who finds it incomprehensible that any caring individual could reject these little ones, regardless how they got to where they are and the costs involved to Gang Masters about whom the authorities have done nothing,

[cromwell]

Well it looks like you have your wish Kate.Cameron has caved in to the ceaseless left wing propaganda and will now be importing some "refugee" children from European camps.

And already liberals are bleating that this "does not go far enough". Well damn me, who could have prophesied that, eh? So now having set a precedent soon the UK too will be "enjoying" hosting 24 year old teenagers, just like Sweden and Germany have done, and paying through the nose for the privilege as well.

I wonder what these children will grow up into?

I also wonder when next years crop of cute looking toddlers in camps comes along - and they will - how many will we take then? And the year after that, and the year after that?

It is costing us £500,000 million to import 20,000 Syrian adults. How much is 3,000 infants going to cost us this year? And the next year? And when all their relations show up?

I won't lie, I resent every penny of it; and we are just adding to known social tensions, the erosion of our liberties and the disintegration of our country.

It's pitiful.

[Aggers]

I won't lie, I resent every penny of it; and we are just adding to known social tensions, the erosion of our liberties and the disintegration of our country.

It's pitiful.

It certainly is pitiful, Cromwell. It is leading to un-imaginable problems for us and for other countries too. This is a situation that I don't think has ever happened before, and really deserves to be dealt with by all nations collectively. If we had an efficient and effective United Nations, this is something that that organisation should be dealing with. When most progressive European countries have become swamped with
refugees from Africa it will too late. I think that European nations should make it quite clear, now, to all immigrants, that Europe is only a temporary haven, and that they will be returned to their homeland when things return to normal. I also think that we should be considering now what measures are necessary in order to achieve this end.

[Workingman]

You do have to feel for these poor little ones who somehow, miraculously, got to Europe unaided by family and friends, and then managed to survive the harsh winter(s) until the UK came to their aid.

Now, without any family or friends in the UK, they are to be handed over to children's services in some of the UK's wonderful social services regimes: Birmingham or Rotherham or many other places anyone?

Poor sods. They might well have been better off in the camps of Turkey, Jordan or Lebanon. UKtopia is a myth.

[Suff]

I saw the news with absolute dismay.

Tens of thousands more children abducted, abused and killed just so a few activists can say they have "done their duty".

They needn't bother coming back next year telling us we have to take them from Turkey next because so many are being killed abducted and abused on their trek across the EU.

That was an obvious conclusion. Obvious to everyone but the activists.

[KateLMead]

When B'Liaropened the floodgates in the knowledge he was going to lose the election "He was the start of the problems we are facing today."
When he illegally invaded Iraq all for oil, I stated then a blood bath in the Middle East would be the outcome, "not difficult to forecast"..we saw him give the kiss of death to Gaddafi. And this apology for a Prime Minister still walks free. Since turning Iraq into a pile of rubble, he and his wife have managed to add 35 more houses to rent out to add to their portfolio they have become multi millionaires thanks to their dirty deals. I would take every property they have accrued and I would fill them with Our own homeless soldiers and Iraqi's preferably the translators who put their lives on the line but have been refused sanctuary here.

[Suff]

I agree totally Kate. But to make the wrong decision now because he made so many wrong decisions before simply beggars belief.

You read it here now. You will read about the plague of children being abducted in their trek across the EU in 18 months......