The fallout hits Labour

[Workingman]

People are people and, in the end, they take a pride in "their" MP being famous or prominent..

That's novel. People taking 'pride' in 'their' MP because they are prominent and famous, what a joke.

They would be the likes of Ed Miliband in Doncaster, ex MP Ed Balls in Morley and Outwood, Hilary Benn in Leeds Central, Yvette Cooper in PontyCasino, Andrew Mitchell in Sutton Coldfield, George Galloway in various opportunistic constituencies, would they? There are oh so many more.

Most 'famous' MPs are anything but respected by their constituents. The most respected MPs are the ones nobody has heard of and who get their heads down and do the job. I'll give you my MP, Greg Mulholland, as an example.

He is a LibDem in what was once one of the safest Conservative seats. With boundary changes it switched temporarily to Labour on the wave of Blairism, but since then he has beaten off all-comers. He should have been wiped out in the last general election, but wasn't. Why? It is because he serves his constituents with a passion, lives in the constituency, his children attended local state schools, he can be seen out and about shopping with the wife, and he is approachable.

Outside of Leeds North West, Parliament and the LibDem party he is largely unknown. He is what the constituents of prima donna MPs would love to have, but they can't, he is ours. Hands off!

[Suff]

Outside of Leeds North West, Parliament and the LibDem party he is largely unknown. He is what the constituents of prima donna MPs would love to have, but they can't, he is ours. Hands off!

Interestingly I've heard of him though. But I'm an East Midlands child so that's perhaps not so surprising is it?

[Workingman]

So Corbyn lost the non-binding no-confidence motion tabled by the despicable Margaret Hodge. What I do not understand is why he is getting all the flak for the turmoil this has caused, it is not as if he tabled a motion of no-confidence in himself, or sacked twenty odd of his shadow cabinet.

All the blame, all of it, should be targeted at Hodge and all the cowards who resigned. The motion was last thing the country needs at this time and was unnecessary. It has left the country without an opposition at the most important time in modern history.

He has pledged to stay on and fight anyone in an election to remove him, and rightly so. The problem for the Blairite cowards is who to put up against him. None of the failed three would stand a chance, and Alan Johnson and Rachel Reeves have already said they are not interested. I can't think of one Labour MP who could carry the MPs, the party, the unions and traditional labour voters with them.

What I can see is 172 Labour MPs who have stabbed their constituents in the back. Those voters are of a mild socialist tendency and if they do decide to take revenge the only party they can turn to is the LibDems. Wouldn't that be something?

[medsec222]

It seems that Corbyn is a euro scepctic, and so were the thousands of Labour supporters that backed Brexit.

[cromwell]

All Corbyn has to do is to hang on. People vote tribally in this country and he is the leader of the Labour party, backed by the membership of that party.

If the Parliamentary Labour Party want to chuck their teddies out of the pram, let them. Are they all going to leave the Labour party and form another one? They will vanish if they do - where's the SDP these days?

I don't see what is so wrong with a political partyin the HoC actually being representative of the membership of that party. If they are all left wingers, so be it.

[miasmum]

WM, my cousin had an MP very very similar to yours. Also Lib Dem, farming community, local schools, wife attends local WI. Can be found helping pull tractors out of the snow, mopping up after the floods. She is in Westmoreland, his name is Tim Farron

You might have heard of him

I have also heard of Stephen Mulholland, but then I vote Lib Dem so as there are so few these days..........

[Suff]

It seems that Corbyn is a euro scepctic, and so were the thousands of Labour supporters that backed Brexit.

Ah but he lied and said Remain in a dodgy and unconvincing routine.... Very honourable.

I want him to stay and to fight and to win. Then all the voters who don't support him can vote UKIP..

[medsec222]

It seems that Corbyn is a euro scepctic, and so were the thousands of Labour supporters that backed Brexit.

Ah but he lied and said Remain in a dodgy and unconvincing routine.... Very honourable.

I want him to stay and to fight and to win. Then all the voters who don't support him can vote UKIP..

Nigel Farage seems to be the only one who isnt dodgy yet he takes all the flack.

[cruiser2]

We now have the Tory party with no leader and the Labour party with a leader but no members.
UKIP has a leader who can talk some sense but no MPs
Little comment from Lib Dems
What a way to run a country
As my teachers used to say--Must do better!!!

[Suff]

I think we're in a period of transition. All periods of transition are periods of chaos to one extent or another.

For more than 40 years our government has, to one extent or another, been subject to Brussels. In the nearer two decades, our government has become more of a federal state with major decisions being taken in Brussels.

To change from that state to a new one of running our independent country without guidance and control from without, means our entire government has to take a step up and do the job they were hired for. That's going to take a different mind set and a willingness to do.

I can't see that a government convened to work under and alongside Brussels is one that is necessarily fit for purpose to run our country alone in the world. Something HAS to change and the sooner the better.

For me, 50 or 60 Labour MP's crossing the floor to UKIP would do the trick... Another 50 or 60 Tory MP's doing the same would be just what the doctor ordered in the short term for me.