£350mn every week for the NHS...

[Workingman]

.... or maybe not.

It was the BIG lie by the Brexiteers. The REAL net figure for what the UK pays to the EU is nearer £163mn, but never mind, £163mn per week for the NHS is a big plus......

Ah, but......

The new keeper of the purse strings, Philip Hammond, has just announced that the government will guarantee £6bn to cover current EU funding of projects, post Brexit. So that's £115 per week for farming, science, environment, R&D etc. not to mention Mr Carney's money printing for the banks. There's not much left for the NHS, is there?

There are also calls from some Brexiteers to delay pulling the A50 trigger to allow Fox-Davis-Johnson time to tune their negotiating position. What?

The referendum was on the cards for over three years. Both sides should have fine-tuned their negotiating positions long before the result. They only had two options to deal with - In or Out.

What we have instead is the 'winners' not knowing where they want to be. Their promises have been trashed and their lies found out, and to top it all they are not even a united front. Never mind. Carney will print more money to help the banks, Hammy will guarantee funds from somewhere, he might even borrow some from Mr C, and we will still have to meet EU specs for things we sell to them... that's if we are still making 'things'.

Brexit was supposed to mean 'Brexit', according to Mrs May(be), so it is time for Brexiteers to force he to act. The referendum was not legally binding, but that is no excuse to kick it into the long grass. All this dilly-dallying is hurting the country more than is necessary. If we are going to trash the place let's do it quickly and properly.

[Kaz]

It's all such a bloody mess and muddle

[Suff]

I'm getting tired of the figures being prattled about. As far as I'm aware the £163 does not include what we get back from the EU for our projects. So they've guaranteed the EU funding, now we have to work out what we're going to do with the rest of the money we give to the EU and don't get back....

This is like the RBS reporting fully year costs (well in the case of PPI 2 year costs) and then set it against half year earnings and call it a £2bn loss.....

I'm not biting.

[Workingman]

Talks about talks have not even begun and already Fox and Johnson are at each other's throats fighting over who gets the best bits of the Brexit negotiations.