The Immigration Man

[Suff]

So Corbyn is in favour of Immigration from both the EU and the rest of the world.

His fix for the mess he would create?

An immigration fund which would "ease the impact". Great, so how does he propose to use that fund to fix the eastern EU gangsters, in Boston, going around murdering each other and anyone who gets in their way and raping whatever women are not cautious enough to keep out of their way. That's just the tip of the iceberg. How does he intend to mitigate the "attitude" problem of other races and religions who don't see why they should be tolerant.

Then how's he going to fund the increase from 9m to 12m or even 15m people "not contributing to the economy????

As I said before, he's going to make the party unelectable at the next election and his MP's are going to descend on both Corbyn AND the party if they don't sort it out.

Are we having fun yet?

[Workingman]

It is staggering the way politicians, of all parties, believe that they can control the way people think on any particular topic. They should have the quote from Abe Lincoln tattooed in reverse on their foreheads:

"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."

So what does Corbyn do? He trots out the tired old mantra: “Migrants that have come to this country make an enormous contribution to it." and sadly some people still fall for it. It is true that down the years many migrants have made great contributions to the country, but all of them, all the time?

If migrants come here to work for minimum wage (or less) then by the time their tax credits, housing, health, education, transport, and other infrastructure costs, are taken into consideration they become net takers. Throw in the fact that in some sectors of the economy they are taking jobs from the local workforce leaving Britons on benefits, and when their benefits are taken into consideration the migrant's net take grows substantially. The vast majority of migrants fall into the the low wage category. This is especially true of migrants over the past decade or so.

The one bright spot on the horizon is that Corbyn/McDonnell are not the Labour party and it, to its credit, has systems in place to give the PLP (Labour MPs) some control over policies and what gets into its manifesto.

I think that Labour are playing a canny game at this conference. They are making big promises this far out from the election on things I suspect they know cannot be delivered in full. Don't be surprised to see quite a lot of it slowly reined in over the next few years. There will be no big U turns, just a gentle clawing back, bit by bit, to more reasonable levels, but the ideas will be out there and the other parties will have to react.

[AliasAggers]

A short while ago I was thinking that Corbyn would be an asset to the country if he came into power.

Now I have grave doubts.

[Suff]

I think that Labour are playing a canny game at this conference. They are making big promises this far out from the election on things I suspect they know cannot be delivered in full. Don't be surprised to see quite a lot of it slowly reined in over the next few years. There will be no big U turns, just a gentle clawing back, bit by bit, to more reasonable levels, but the ideas will be out there and the other parties will have to react.

This is possible, I think sometimes. Then I remember that the Leave vote backbone was northern and midlands English Labour voters.

Then I think they have a suicide gene inbuilt.

I know what Corbyn is and I've never had a doubt. So this does not surprise me. Remember he thinks the Palestinians can do no wrong and that they should be allowed free and full access to Israel. No matter how much murder they do in the process.

Fortunately there was no respect to lose on my part. All that happened was that he fulfilled my expectations.

[Workingman]

Very few of them get any respect from me. I can see right through them, and I have seen Labour's current tactic used before.

I will remember these promises come manifesto time to see what it contains - not that manifestos are worth the paper they are printed on.

[cromwell]

He just lost the election there..

The thing is, all Labour politicians and probably all mainstream politicians, love immigration. But they know that the public don't love it as much as they do.

So they lie about it, like Mr Cameron with his pledge to reduce immigration to the tens of thousands.

Corbyn is at least honest about his enthusiasm for immigration. The MP's who oppose him in the Labour party are just as enthusiastic, but know the policy is a sure fire vote loser. So what do they do? They have come up with a slogan!

"Managed migration"!

Back to Blairism, a smile and a slogan, hoping that this will keep the public quiet whilst they let another few million in.

Is there any wonder that politicians are so disliked?

[Suff]

Well it will keep UKIP relevant anyway.

[Workingman]

"Managed migration"!

As in they 'managed' to let lots of unneeded migrants in?