So, as predicted, Boris won.

[Workingman]

Boris hasn't got time for it.

Time for what?

Time to get a Leave deal that will bring many Remainers on board? Given all that he has said in the past that would be a miracle, but miracles do happen and we can hope.

Or is it time for his no-deal, the one nobody campaigned for and not one person voted for? If this is what he needs time for then we had best brace ourselves for the break up of the UK and major civil unrest.

Boris Johnson is a dangerous man and I am equally surprised and worried that apparently intelligent people have not seen through his fake charisma. Normal boys do not seriously dream of being "King of the World" and then go on to boast about it as adults, that's ground zero for budding megalomaniacs, which is what Johnson has turned out to be.

[medsec222]

I am not too sure about Boris' character myself Frank. He did OK as Mayor of London, but being PM is a different kettle of fish and we will have to watch and wait to see what transpires. Hopefully for everyone's sake, he will not slip on a banana skin!

What I meant about Boris not having time for it, is he cannot afford to waste three years like his predecessor. The country is totally fed up with all the shilly shallying around that has gone on, and more of the same will be no good for business or the country. He needs to make a successful exit from the EU and I hope he can manage it. We need to move on now as there are others issues to address.

[Workingman]

He needs to make a successful exit from the EU...

But the "successful exit" part has always been, and always will be, the problem unless it is clearly defined no matter who is in charge. There is not one version of Brexit to be found anywhere that can garner a majority of the people - not one. Not now.

That is not to say that one would never be found if we were to sit down calmly and look at all the possibilities, but in the pressure cooker we are in at the moment we are destined to end up with a pig's ear. A very damaging and costly pig's ear.

What frustrates the hell out of us Remainers is that the suggestion to try to reach some form of accommodation we can all work with is spat back at us with the likes of "four cough, we won, suck it up, democracy killers, traitors, emigrate to your beloved EU" and worse.

If Brexit were not to happen at this time of asking it would not be dead. Brexit has been born and it is not going to die any time soon, if ever. But Brexit for Brexit's sake, as we have now, is madness and if it can be stopped then it should be - but only by legal means of course, obviously.

[Suff]

Boris hasn't got time for it.

Time for what?

Time to get a Leave deal that will bring many Remainers on board?.

Oh come on, give us a break, the only deal which will bring remainders on board is to revoke A50.

Today the government says that they are assuming that the EU will not negotiate and that we will leave with no deal.

The path is now set and the government is working to deliver it. If the path is to change, the EU has to change it.

Time? The EU will keep Brexit open forever, taking our billions and refusing terms.

Meds, it is not Boris staffing his cabinet with people who echo his views, it is a PM building a team to deliver the commitments that the party has made. That is good common sense. Needless to say the press twist it to fit their agenda.

May catastrophically failed to deliver her agenda because she chose a team who were not committed to delivering it.

Boris is a far better manager. He's not the slightest bit interested in pleasing everyone, he is tightly focused on delivering on the demand of the 52% of eligible voters who bothered their arse to vote.

Expect palpitations in the EU when the message from Westminster does not change and the clock winds down.

Just to level set here, the EU remains on the very verge of Technical depression, not recession. The ECB are preparing the markets for an interest rate cut in December and to flood the markets with cheap money to stimulate demand.

Germany remains in manufacturing recession and the two biggest threats to German manufacturing remain Brexit and US trade wars.

What are the EU doing about fixing the problem?

Forcing a no deal Brexit and insulting Trump.

And some want to remain with these arrogant losers? Takes all kinds I suppose.

[Suff]

He needs to make a successful exit from the EU...

But the "successful exit" part has always been, and always will be, the problem unless it is clearly defined no matter who is in charge.

OK so here is the problem. Define successful exit.

For me there is only one successful exit. The TEU and TFEU no longer apply to the UK. Everything else and I do mean Everything, is a nice to have.

Care to share what your definition is?

[Workingman]

Give you a break... to do what?

He's not the slightest bit interested in pleasing everyone, he is tightly focused on delivering on the demand of the 52% of eligible voters who bothered their arse to vote.

Demand eh? Demand.

You and all the rest of the Brexiteer hard nuts have been banging this drum forever and a day. And you do it in the good old style of the British ignoramus that if the other side do not understand SHOUT LOUDER!

You have been politely asked time and again what sort of leave the majority of Leave voters, more than 48% of total votes, wanted. You body swerve, avoid, deflect or outright refuse to answer every time. You either do not know or do not care, yet you are determined to impose a no-deal against the will of parliament and the people.

You have been asked more that enough times of the benefits of no-deal on the economy, the regions and the people and you remain silent. Oops, sorry, you do not remain silent, you give us wish-lists, hopes, aspirations and forecasts, but with nothing tangible to back them up. Rainbow dust and Unicorns.

Here's the break... come back when you can tell us in great detail which deal has been agreed upon by 16,141,242 of you Leavers. That will give you one more vote than those who voted for the perfectly and easily understandable Remain position. Links, graphs and numbers are all acceptable so long as they are relevant and can be checked. No straw men please.

Thank you.

[Workingman]

Ah, you posted as I was composing...

So, your "successful exit" is out of the TEU and TFEU. You do have a majority of voters supporting you on that?

My version of "successful exit" is to Revoke, Remain and Reform. I am not sure of how many are with me, but I am prepared to ask.

[medsec222]

No revoke
No remain
No reform - didn't David Cameron try to do that without success.

[cruiser2]

How many pages sections and subjects such as finance, agriculture, fishing and sport to name some are there in the Deal.
Have both sides accepted part of the Deal
The NI border seems to be a poblem but there has been no mention of the Dublin/Liverpool or Fishguard to Rosslare. There are also flights from Ireland to the UK.

[TheOstrich]

Revoke? Only as an alternative to May's deal, which is now dead and buried. (Or is it ….. we shall see )
Remain? Never been my preferred option ….
Reform? You're having a giraffe, surely, my friend. The EU is as much for reforming as Thatcher was for turning .....

Even if we did revoke Article 50 now and push for reform, there's at least 27 other countries who simply don't want to see the EU in any other way than the way it is, or alternatively want ever closer union. Ask Vardaker. Better still, ask Macron!