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Re: So, as predicted, Boris won.

Postby Workingman » 28 Jul 2019, 16:58

So what do we do? Roll over and let the very small minority of hardline no-deal bullies push us into something only they want and which nobody has voted for?

To revoke A50 does not kill Brexit, which is something many of you seem to think. The Brexit idea is alive, it lives and it will not die, but it does need some kind of plan for it to work for the majority of us who will have to remain here once it is achieved.

Aiming for us to do something sensible about it is obviously too much to ask.
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Re: So, as predicted, Boris won.

Postby jenniren » 28 Jul 2019, 23:40

medsec222 wrote:No revoke
No remain
No reform - didn't David Cameron try to do that without success.

My feelings exactly medsec and as Ossie says...…….
TheOstrich wrote:Reform? You're having a giraffe, surely, my friend. The EU is as much for reforming as Thatcher was for turning ..... Even if we did revoke Article 50 now and push for reform, there's at least 27 other countries who simply don't want to see the EU in any other way than the way it is, or alternatively want ever closer union. Ask Vardaker. Better still, ask Macron!
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Re: So, as predicted, Boris won.

Postby Workingman » 29 Jul 2019, 00:21

OK, you no-deal chaps and chapesses, do you want to give us the details of your wonderful solution for Brexit?

C'mon guys and gals, let's have it. It's going to to be brill, isn't it? Give us the frigging details. Sunlight uplands, Unicorns, Mermaids, Rainbow dust...they don't cut it.

Go on you ultra leave bullies, put some meat on your claim of no-deal that nobody voted for being the best deal. You cannot, and you know it.
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Re: So, as predicted, Boris won.

Postby medsec222 » 29 Jul 2019, 03:17

So these are my thoughts, for what they are worth.

Of the 48% leavers, the choice they wanted, remain, was already on the ballot paper and they voted for it, so nothing to complain of regarding the ballot paper from their point of view. Unfortunately for them, not enough of them voted for it :(

Of the 52% leavers, their choice was on the ballot paper also, leave, and enough of them did vote for it :D

So do the 52% now feel cheated because not enough choices were on the ballot paper to enable them to make the 'correct' choice? Are they all clamouring for a re-run. They seem remarkably silent. Perhaps others are clamouring for a re-run on their behalf - could this be coming from the remainers? And if there was a re-run, the Liberal Democrats have now said if the result came back to leave, they would ignore it - likewise the Greens have said the same. So a re-run would be a costly, pointless, time-wasting, exercise.

As for putting the meat on the bones, the Government asked a question and got its answer from the voters, so it should now do its job, however difficult it is for them, and it's up to them to put the meat on the bones, not the leavers. And don't forget the majority in Parliament voted to revoke Article 50.

So why blame the leavers for giving the Government an answer they didn't expect.
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Re: So, as predicted, Boris won.

Postby victor » 29 Jul 2019, 08:24

Well said Medsec222-leavers made their choice as offered ,it's the REMAINDER politicians that messed everything up.
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Re: So, as predicted, Boris won.

Postby Kaz » 29 Jul 2019, 09:55

Workingman wrote:OK, you no-deal chaps and chapesses, do you want to give us the details of your wonderful solution for Brexit?

C'mon guys and gals, let's have it. It's going to to be brill, isn't it? Give us the frigging details. Sunlight uplands, Unicorns, Mermaids, Rainbow dust...they don't cut it.

Go on you ultra leave bullies, put some meat on your claim of no-deal that nobody voted for being the best deal. You cannot, and you know it.


Exactly, Frank! I see the government are preparing to send out "marketing" to the general public, to let them know what to expect from a No Deal Brexit. It's going to be a nightmare, and Leavers will only have themselves to blame. How dare Leavers blame Remainers for it. I'm really angry about it :evil:
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Re: So, as predicted, Boris won.

Postby Kaz » 29 Jul 2019, 09:56

victor wrote:Well said Medsec222-leavers made their choice as offered ,it's the REMAINDER politicians that messed everything up.


Claptrap!
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Re: So, as predicted, Boris won.

Postby victor » 29 Jul 2019, 12:13

I do wonder how Remainers would be reacting if the vote had gone their way but Leavers kept on for Revoke/revote/
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Re: So, as predicted, Boris won.

Postby Workingman » 29 Jul 2019, 14:44

We would have had to put up with years of bitching and moaning supported by the lies and myths presented to the gullible by the Express, Mail, Sun and Telegraph.

Just like the last time we won.
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Re: So, as predicted, Boris won.

Postby Kaz » 29 Jul 2019, 15:23

Exactly what Frank said!
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