Workingman wrote:Kaz, I don't know about you, but I am convinced that some people are confused by Brexit and no-deal.
Brexit isn't going away. The Jack is out of the box and will not be put back, but no-deal is dead. If the Johnson cannot get a deal and then get it through parliament by the 19th of October he has to ask the EU to extend. The Benn-Burt bill - European Union (Withdrawal) (No. 6) Bill, became law on the 9th of September 2019 and it contains the wording of the letter to be sent to the EU. If the Johnson refuses he breaks the law: simples.
I don't think people are confused by the concepts of "Brexit" and "no deal" at all.
In the referendum, people voted by a simple majority for Brexit. Whether that was either a negotiated deal or a crash out was not an issue. The issue was Brexit, pure and simple, and that's what achieved the (albeit slender) majority vote. As someone else has said, it you don't want to like the answer, then don't ask the question in the first place. But the question was put to the country on a simple majority, and Brexit won.
And it wasn't billed as an advisory vote, it was an instruction. May went to the EU and negotiated a deal (of sorts) which then went for ratification - and guess what? Parliament voted it down three times. So, it can be argued, Parliament refused to act out the will of the people. This is why I do not regard the UK as a "democracy".
Now you say "Brexit isn't going away". Well, just look at that from the standpoint of us Brexiteers. It is obvious to us that a vocal minority cabal of Remainers want to scupper Brexit at any cost. Miller, Major, Clarke, Swinson, Bercow, Blair so on. And they are pulling every trick out of the book in order to do so.
The majority of the country now, and I don't think you can challenge this, wants Brexit over and done with, whatever the shape, colour or form. Remainers have blocked leaving with a deal, and now leaving without a deal. And that is entirety why we are in the mess we are currently in. Completely pathetic, and the longer this goes on, the more fractured this country will be and the bigger the convulsion when it arrives.
It would seem to some of us Brexiteers that the only way we are going to achieve Brexit now, short of breaking the "law", is by bribing Macron et al to throw us out. We can but hope.
And yes, Farage gets my vote at the next election if we have yet another extension forced upon us. Some may consider him an obnoxious man, but he's no worse than the majority of the clowns both inside and outside the Houses of Parliament at the moment.
