The European press on our election

[Workingman]

Suff, you'll know that I disagree with a lot of that, not all, but quite a lot.

What the Johnson says to us and the media, at the moment, are just emollient words and promises. They have no real substance. The earliest we will get to know his true intentions will come with the first putsch, sorry, reshuffle and the makeup of the new Cabinet. I will not be surprised to find a number of prominent changes.

[medsec222]

We will certainly have to keep an eye on him Frank. He is a slippery little eel to say the least. I would like to think he is aware of how hard it is for the traditional Northern voter to move from voting Labour to the Conservatives. We are definitely tribal up North.

Our small local community page on Facebook has been awash for the last three weeks or so about the failings of uncaring people who are prepared to vote for the racist Tory scum and Boris Johnson in particular. It has been sad to witness such venom on a page that has previously only been concerned with recommendations for local traders, the best local chippy, motorists who try to jump the traffic queues, and people who let their dogs use the local park as a toilet. Hopefully we will go back to our usual mundane issues now.

[Suff]

I know WM and I know that Bojo is not your usual political sleasemonger. He is a very different kind, after all he was a reporter.

However I have family who lived in London (my father is a London er) and voted Boris in the first time. They watched him very closely and I listened.

They voted for him again and would have continued to do so.

We have to remember that Boris left the Mayor of London's office and not the other way around.

Cameron found that Boris was not what he expected too. Boris did what London needed and not what the party needed. As a result he was popular.

Time will tell.

[Workingman]

Funny that.

My son and dil, both Tory supporters, lived in Boris's London and thought he was an oxygen thief and a waste of rations. He delivered some things and failed on others.

[Suff]

Age is a factor I guess.

[TheOstrich]

Our small local community page on Facebook has been awash for the last three weeks or so about the failings of uncaring people who are prepared to vote for the racist Tory scum and Boris Johnson in particular. It has been sad to witness such venom on a page that has previously only been concerned with recommendations for local traders, the best local chippy, motorists who try to jump the traffic queues, and people who let their dogs use the local park as a toilet. Hopefully we will go back to our usual mundane issues now.

I've just come off this town's FB page, MedSec, and you know what, I could have posted exactly what you have just put.
The only difference would be motorists who jump lights rather than traffic queues, and (down here) a plethora of lost cats. We must have the dumbest felines in the south-west …….

[Suff]

If you spend 5 minutes of time researching Carrie Symonds, you might wonder why she has anything to do with such a horrible racist monster.

Then you would have to ask questions though and that's more difficult than taking it on faith that he is.

Better not to check. Then you can post vitriolic community posts with a clear conscience.

[cromwell]

God knows what the next five years will bring. Hopefully a return to boring politics.
Labour are in a bad spot. Corbyn tried to please both halves of his party; the towns and villages of old Labour leavers and metropolitan remainers. And ended up pleasing neither.
Btw, round here Yvette Cooper just scraped in, majority down from 14,000 to 1,200.

[Workingman]

Cromwell, I think you have it re pleasing all the voters all the time.

I am reading similar things in other forums and there is real anger at the leverage Momentum now has. Labour looks as though it is going to have to go through another "Militant" episode to sort itself out. It already has its Michael Foot MkII.

I feel a bit sorry for the majority middle-of-the-road Labour voter because as things stand they have nothing to vote for and that is very bad for the country.

Suff, nothing you say is going to make me admire or even like the Johnson.

I will not be voting Conservative again whilst he is in charge and people like Raab, Patel, Baker, IDS, Gove, Reese-Mogg, Truss, the Dr et al have positions of power and the likes of Cash, McVey and Francois are lurking in the shadows.

[cromwell]

Apologies for concentrating on Labour. Around here a conservative MP is a thing rarely seen.
But they still don't get it.
The easy option for "moderate" Labour MPs is to blame everything on Magic Grandpa.
But it isn't all Corbyn's fault.
Watching Question Time tonight for the first time in a long time and well now, who do we have here?
Stephen Kinnock, Red Prince, son of
Neil Kinnock.
Lives in Denmark, married to an ex Danish PM.
Who spoke repeatedly about "re-connecting with our working-class heartlands".
The problem with that being that Labour may be FOR the working class, but they are no longer a party OF the working class.
Metropolitan progressive liberals were despatched under the watch of Blair to represent solid working class seats.
It worked for a while until Brexit, at which point people started asking why leave working class constituencies were represented by middle class remainers?
Labour has been too paternalistic and too patronising of it's working class supporters.
And now these people have realised it.
And if Labour don't realise and correct this, they are history.