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Re: Wuhan virus.

Postby Suff » 23 Mar 2020, 14:15

Workingman wrote:What is singularly missing is the golden method, the silver bullet, the universal solution. There are claims, obviously, but nobody knows for sure and nobody will know till it all washes out of the system.


This is true but there are some pointers, like population density, social mores, compliance of the population at large, concern for others etc... Next to the Netherlands England is the next most densely populated country in Europe.

We will have to just keep watching the numbers. But we do have one indicator. The longer the Italian lockdown goes on, the more data we will have about just how many people were infected in those few weeks and how long it took for them to develop the virus.

It will just be about 1 month too late for the UK to do anything about it.

Nice data for the future though. Got to have some value?
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Re: Wuhan virus.

Postby Suff » 23 Mar 2020, 15:17

Talking about charts and stats, here is a good one. It is logarithmic too.

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For those who are not used to logarithmic graphs, the gap from 300-1,000 is the same as the gap from 10,000 to 30,000.
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Re: Wuhan virus.

Postby Suff » 24 Mar 2020, 08:54

Whilst researching why Germany is vaccination prominent people against bacterial infections, I came across this article.

As a former head of the CDC, her statements make grim reading.

Health on a budget anyone?
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Re: Wuhan virus.

Postby cromwell » 25 Mar 2020, 13:34

The rate of infection in Italy has fallen for the third day in a row. Not by much but right now I'll take any bit of good news no matter how small.
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Re: Wuhan virus.

Postby cromwell » 25 Mar 2020, 18:14

I just googled "Oxford Coronavirus Report". According to this group of experts over half of the UK population may already have been infected, with most having no symptoms or only mild symptoms.
The FT has the article.
I just hope this is right. We are getting so many different experts, mainly contradicting each other.
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Re: Wuhan virus.

Postby Workingman » 25 Mar 2020, 18:32

Big pinch of salt here.

The article on report in the Standard shows that the Oxford modelling is very much at odds with that of Imperial College London and also the one from the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine on C4. They cannot all be right. Given what we see on a daily basis from around the world I am sceptical to say the least.

I would like it to be right, but I will not be putting money on it.
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Re: Wuhan virus.

Postby cromwell » 25 Mar 2020, 18:46

They can't all be right indeed.
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Re: Wuhan virus.

Postby Suff » 25 Mar 2020, 20:13

Italy estimates that some 700,000 have been infected but not detected. Perhaps true, perhaps not.
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Re: Wuhan virus.

Postby Workingman » 26 Mar 2020, 00:13

I see some London bloke legged it to his holiday home in Scotland and took the virus with him to infect his staff and the locals; and his mum legged it to her castle in the home counties so that she didn't spread it to those in Camden or Tower Hamlets or the likes. God bless them for their sacrifices to save their subjects. How would the 66 million of us survive without them?

Please BBC, do tell us.
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Re: Wuhan virus.

Postby Suff » 26 Mar 2020, 00:46

Yes, because we really do need a constitutional crisis in the royalty to add on top of all the rest.

There are exceptions and these are two of them. One of them picked it up doing his royal duties which are a matter of state, just like the PM. The other has been moved, against her own preference, to protect the crown and the succession.

Until we don't have a Monarchy this is only sense.
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