Covid passports for pubs (and so on)

[Workingman]

Johnson now apparently thinks that lockdown is popular, that it is a vote winner.
That vaccine passports are a vote winner, that being "kept safe" is a vote winner.

Then he is a fool beyond measure.

He needs to read some of the comments in the media and he will find a groundswell of opinion that people want their freedoms back. These are not the militant anti-vaxxer or 'end lockdown NOW!' brigades, but mostly ordinary people, and their numbers grow by the day. There will come a time when they become a critical mass and when that happens all bets are off. Come the better weather and I predict a lot of rule bending: beach visits, park picnics, beauty spot visits.... the police will have to be careful.

I do not want to see riots, but we cannot rule them out. We have already had low level civil unrest in some places and very much worse in London and Bristol. It will only take one spak, just one.

[Suff]

I was just saying to Mrs S about the pubs. Don't like the whole certificate thing, don't go. Give it a month or two and the Government will fold. They can't afford to have us refuse to spend our money on the pubs, their taxes will collapse.

The problem is people don't think that way. If they did this government would be in real trouble with their regulations.

[TheOstrich]

I was just saying to Mrs S about the pubs. Don't like the whole certificate thing, don't go.

That's actually my stance. Frankly, we can't be bothered to fiddle on with an App or have to show it in a multitude of places (I never bothered with Track 'n Trace, for example) so we will modify our behaviour and we won't go out on day trips, or spending money in local shops, cafes and pub-restaurants. We've lived that way for a year now, and that's how we will probably continue.

But compared with two years ago, it is a sea-change in the way we live our retirement life, very different from what we anticipated. It's all very difficult.

I asked Master O the same question this afternoon. He has no problem with obtaining and having to show a covid passport. Younger generation, not bothered ....

[Suff]

Younger generations have no clue about consequences of things which are pushed on them. It takes time to gain the perspective to know when to push back.

[cromwell]

Younger generations have no clue about consequences of things which are pushed on them. It takes time to gain the perspective to know when to push back.

I agree.
The thing which might save everyone is chaos. With some establishments insisting on a covid passport and others not. Some overseas destinations insisting on a covid passport, and others not. Some venues insisting on a covid passport and others not.

I won't hold my breath though.

[cromwell]

I asked Master O the same question this afternoon. He has no problem with obtaining and having to show a covid passport. Younger generation, not bothered ....

I do wonder what would bother them.

[Workingman]

The next big test comes on April 5th. That is the date when government has to review the data to allow a raft of easing of restrictions on April12th. There will be many prayers offered up in Cabinet that the data meet or better the four "tests" the government set itself for the easing of restrictions at each step of ending the lockdown; not least because many of the public have already factored in the easing happening. April 12th is already in their diaries as the day when life will start to begin to look a bit more normal. Cancel that and there could be big trouble.

[TheOstrich]

... and case numbers are now starting to gently rise with more detections amongst primary and secondary children, so I wouldn't book a pub meal out anytime soon.

[Workingman]

That could well be a fly in the ointment depending on how the figures are interpreted. In the raw state they show a rise, yes, but since schools went back all pupils are tested, I believe, twice a week where before they were not. The new testing regime will, therefore, find more cases, but is it a "real" rise?

Interpretations, interpretations, decisions, decisions!

[cromwell]

... and case numbers are now starting to gently rise with more detections amongst primary and secondary children, so I wouldn't book a pub meal out anytime soon.

Infections are gently rising because they are testing more than ever. But I suppose it could be a convenient excuse for not easing restrictions.
Cue Johnson saying "One last push.." for the 94th time.