new energy cap

[Kaz]

I’ve thought about a heated airer too Jen, rather than a clothes horse. They apparently use very little energy

[cromwell]

I think we ought to be careful about normalising a worse way of life.

Some people are going to be in trouble, yes. Other people are going to have to use savings. Government handouts will be welcome but you can't settle into that as a way of life.

The national grid said that the crisis could go on for three years. It had better not, or there will be unrest.

[Workingman]

Jen, I have an Addis zig-zag style air drier - not heated - cost about £20 from Home Bargains. It has about 20 hanging rails, so takes a good load, and the top section has pull out hooks to hang things like shirts / blouses on coat hangers. It folds flat when not in use and can fit down the side of my wardrobe.

I use it in front of the radiator in my dining room. The heating is on so I might as well make it do something useful.

Dunelm have them in.

I second the slow cooker use. Batch and freeze.

Keep fridge and freezer quite full, making and keeping "air" cold is expensive.

Do full wash loads not little ones.

[Workingman]

I found my old heated airer absolutely useless. The heated bars made a dry line on the clothes but as hot air rises and wet clothes hang down it kind of defeated the object.

I found this article an interesting read: https://www.banburyguardian.co.uk/read- ... run-932646

Kaz, I actually think your drying room idea, mentioned earlier, works well.

[jenniren]

I recently bought a zig zag type of airer WM, mines a minky but sounds very similar to your Addis. I've begun to reduce drying time in the tumbler then popping things onto the airer to finish off. It works quite well, but I like my towels fully dried in the tumbler. The type of heated airer I was looking at are the Lakeland ones which come with a cover to keep the heat in so should dry things much quicker. They're not cheap so would be interested to hear if anyone has tried these.

[saundra]

Of just had a message from Scottish power,about the £400government hand out you don't get it all at once
In October/November £66 will be disconnected of my a/c the first week of the month
Then December /March £67 per month
My account is a paper bill every quarter?my airer is just a pull up metal one it's fine for me

[TheOstrich]

I’ve thought about a heated airer too Jen, rather than a clothes horse. They apparently use very little energy

We bought a load of plastic-coated clothes racks (around 10 of them) that simply hook onto the top of our central heating radiators in each room and allow us to drape things to be dried down the side of them ..... works well when we have the C/H on during the winter.

[cromwell]

I've been wondering about a log burner. But I haven't got a clue about costs.

At least you could keep warm though, whatever happens.

[saundra]

I would love a wood burner but I think wood Usenet cheap also it's smooky for then environment
And doesent heat the whole house
really know much about them

[Suff]

I have two log burners. One is a CH boiler. It's huge, stands over 4ft high and the burner chamber is 3ft high by 2.5ft square inside. We also have a wood burning stove with back boiler in the dining room. This runs a radiator in the living room and provides targeted heat in the spring/autumn. It depends on the weather.

In Winter we burn about 1 cubic meter of wood a week and it costs us around €60 per cubic meter. So around €240 per month just for heat.

Remember, our house is HUGE with a capital H. So heating it can be expensive. It still has areas which are not fully closed and not fully insulated, hopefully resolved by this Christmas. Also good to remember that my hot water is on electric. The boiler is 32kw max output. I'll be installing the pellet burner in the autumn. It's 37kw, but I will also be installing 4 more radiators on the system, so burning correspondingly more wood.

I'll be checking the price of pellets and the burn rate as we go. This will almost certainly be more as we'll have timed heating and it will be on in the morning whereas my log burner doesn't go on in the morning unless it's below Zero outside. Which we don't see too much of.

The biggest differentiator is that my local wood supplier has put his prices up by €5 per cubic meter over the last decade. Which is very low price inflation.