Will

[victor]

Starmer have to do another U turn as 108 labour MP' threaten to vote against his benefit cuts.
Cracks beginning to appear?

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[cromwell]

The joke is that the "reforms" will hardly touch the sides.
The problem being that an increasing number of people are actively searching for reasons never to work, and the system is allowing them to.
"Anxiety" shouldn't be a reason for a career on benefits.
Unless and until situations like that are addressed the problem of the welfare bill will never improve.

[Workingman]

Amazing isn't it? For decades the large part of the public - left, right and centre - have been all for curbing welfare. It was hostels not homes for single mothers, workfare or YTS for the young unemployed, vouchers not cash for the long-term unemployed, and so on. Yet whenever any government, any government, tries to do anything about it the media and bleeding hearts brigades are out in force. This is no different.

We are all relatively aware that there are those who are gaming the system... notably the sickness benefits system, but the system helps them. ESA and PIPs were both badly designed. Not everyone who entered those systems was going to be long-term sick / unemployed, yet once they were on them it was virtually impossible to get them off. A big problem, as has always been the case, is that once something is given for free it is hard to take it away, and that is where we are at.