Looking our best

[Aggers]

I'm not bothered if the YES vote wins.

They'll come running back when North Sea oil runs out, no doubt.

If they want to be foreigners, that's up to them.

[Suff]

I'm sure that they said that and a lot more about Southern Ireland.

Plus the Empire tried it's damndest to strangle the economy of Eire.

I'll say this again. Scotland, today, produces ~10% of the UK economy without counting Oil for Scotland but with counting Oil for the economy.

Even without Oil, when it's ALL gone in about 35 years, as opposed to the easy stuff which will be gone in about 10, Scotland will still, on it's normal economy, produce more GDP per head than rUK.

Why would they go running anywhere?

[Aggers]

We will see

[shazsha]

I have to say I've ben impressed by the 16-17 year old voters I've spoken with. Both the No and Yes teenagers have had a good grasp of what is at stake and can put forward some decent debate. I may even go as far as to say they seem more educated on the vote than some adults I've spoken with.
And all this without a DVD of Braveheart which they recognise as a work of fiction!

Aggers, if the oil did run out I certainly wouldn't be running back. I would still believe, that as a nation, we have the right to a government that is there to put us first. Plus I don't think the rUK would want us back and I wouldn't blame them for that.

Anyway when the North Sea oil runs out we'll just move on to the West Coast oil

[Suff]

You're right Aggers. Only time will tell and anything else is pure speculation.

I do feel that the better Scotland is prepared, the better it would be. But those who hold the traces of power today are not even willing to look at what it might be like, except for doom and gloom.

As Kaz says, many of the 16-17 age group are very well informed. Probably due to the plethora of social media. However I've heard this one from two sources now and one of them a teenager. It is a very, very powerful message.

"It's easier to say all the things that could go right than to say all the things that can be better if we did stay together because, if it could be so much better, why aren't they now?"

I'm still not sure about a Yes vote. Westminster antics and the trend in DN to Yes is the best bet for that.

[Lozzles]

Unfortunately they can't Kate. So my acquaintance Scottish Tony doesn't get a vote, though he's Glasgow born and bred though now living down here, but a Polish person who has been in Scotland 2 years does get a vote, which seems bizarre.

That is the same for my Scottish friend.

[molly]

Unfortunately they can't Kate. So my acquaintance Scottish Tony doesn't get a vote, though he's Glasgow born and bred though now living down here, but a Polish person who has been in Scotland 2 years does get a vote, which seems bizarre.

That is the same for my Scottish friend.

And me even though I own a property up there.

[Kaz]

That's just loopy, in both cases

[Suff]

Not if you consider that Scotland has had a vote before, it was a Yes vote and it was discounted because it didn't meet the rules.

Good or bad, Salmond had to make sure that under international rules there was no way of invalidating the vote. Especially if it came down to a 1% or less decision.

Right or wrong, it was done to protect the result and probably cost him a lot of % points.