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Re: Now What?

Postby cromwell » 15 Jan 2019, 22:14

Me too.
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Re: Now What?

Postby saundra » 15 Jan 2019, 22:26

:lol: im in bed with my cuppa and a book
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Re: Now What?

Postby cruiser2 » 16 Jan 2019, 08:19

I voted to leave so I am leaving.
It may be a sinking ship but i have a life belt and a large life boat if anybody wants to join me!! :) :) :)
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Re: Now What?

Postby Kaz » 16 Jan 2019, 09:03

TheOstrich wrote:Well, assuming May wins the No Confidence vote and remains as Prime Minister, I'd expect her to have to swallow her pride and negotiate a delay to Article 50 and a second referendum, probably in March or April.

And as a result of that, I expect we will stay in the EU.


This is what I think too. What a bloody mess though :roll:
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Re: Now What?

Postby victor » 16 Jan 2019, 10:45

A second referendum?? and if Remainders lose agaon will we then have to have a 3rd or will it be Ad Infinitum until Remain get what they want

A 2nd Ref? what then if Remainers are not happy with that result? Ad Infinitum? until they are satisfied
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Re: Now What?

Postby medsec222 » 16 Jan 2019, 10:50

A second referendum would be even more divisive and may not yield a different result. The onus is on Members of Parliament to work together through a process which will enable us to leave the EU with a good deal. No deal should remain on the table as a last resort.
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Re: Now What?

Postby meriad » 16 Jan 2019, 13:35

TheOstrich wrote:Well, assuming May wins the No Confidence vote and remains as Prime Minister, I'd expect her to have to swallow her pride and negotiate a delay to Article 50 and a second referendum, probably in March or April.

And as a result of that, I expect we will stay in the EU.

Seriously if that were to happen then I (along with many many many people in my position) will be the happiest person ever.


medsec222 wrote:A second referendum would be even more divisive and may not yield a different result.

If a 2nd referendum results in the same outcome then so be it :cry: . But I do think that should there be a 2nd referendum then people (after all that has been going on now) will have more clarity and understanding of what Brexit actually is, what it entails and what the long term consequences are (be they good or bad) and they can make a more informed decision compared to the first referendum that to me was based on so many inaccuracies it's not even funny. I suspect many will vote the same, but I also do think that many will change their vote.

medsec222 wrote:The onus is on Members of Parliament to work together through a process which will enable us to leave the EU with a good deal. No deal should remain on the table as a last resort.

But that's the issue - there is so much backstabbing and in-fighting going on in Parliament I really don't think they'll ever agree to anything
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Re: Now What?

Postby Kaz » 16 Jan 2019, 15:50

Well said Ria. A second vote would at least satisfy those of us who believe we were misled and lied to about what Brexit would entail. If it's still Leave after that then fair enough.
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Re: Now What?

Postby saundra » 16 Jan 2019, 16:30

And a lot won't vote after seeing how M P behave
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Re: Now What?

Postby TheOstrich » 16 Jan 2019, 19:05

saundra wrote:And a lot won't vote after seeing how M P behave


I think you're right, Saundra.

When other EU countries have been down the "second referendum" route, like RoI and France, the turnout in the second vote has been much higher, and that swung the vote pro-EU.

In this case, however, I think the Leave vote will collapse through apathy and distrust, and that will allow Remain to win. I'd reckon turnout would be significantly lower.

It will still leave a divided country, as Medsec points out, which I do not believe will be "healed" in my lifetime. Expect an exponential growth in extremist politics, both Left and Right.
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