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Re: Make your damned minds up!

Postby Suff » 16 May 2021, 22:55

That is the thing WM.

If.

Right now it is not and unlocking continues. Also the numbers for the country as a whole, week on week, continue to fall.

Should there be a rise due to the Indian variant hotspots, it would have to be such a huge rise as to be of concern.

The point is all the evidence, so far, points to the vaccine doing its job and these small hotpots not making any appreciable difference to the country as a whole.

IF that should change it will be visible in the numbers.

So far the opposite is true.
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Re: Make your damned minds up!

Postby Suff » 17 May 2021, 19:00

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Re: Make your damned minds up!

Postby Workingman » 17 May 2021, 21:34

Suff, if it had been said that way whole packs of race cards would have been thrown down and the screams of the SJWs would have drowned out everything else.

However, we are not daft and we can read between the lines - the message was delivered, but with plausible denial. It's how things have to be done in the modern world.
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Re: Make your damned minds up!

Postby Suff » 18 May 2021, 07:59

The truth, something the press have a very uncomfortable relationship with these days.

Now, for saying it, apparently, Hancock is a "slippery" character.

For daring to say that the government has provided vaccines and that those vaccines are protecting people from the Indian variant and that those who refused the vaccine are being infected and run the risk of dying.

I grew up in a country where Hancock was talking sense and those being infected were, at best, idiots and at worse dangerous people who damage lives.

I'm sure the Guardian editors would be unhappy to learn that the only thing I can trust them to report are climate news articles.
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Re: Make your damned minds up!

Postby cruiser2 » 18 May 2021, 08:44

Watching the news about the vaccination in Bolton, could not see many Indian people in them.

Slightly Off Key, some of the cars who were driving round London waving flags and shouting were not staying local as they came from Bradford.
Shoud go back to the old days and put a large ball and chain on their ankles.
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Re: Make your damned minds up!

Postby cromwell » 18 May 2021, 09:44

Suff wrote:The truth, something the press have a very uncomfortable relationship with these days.


More than the press Suff.
You only have to think of the abuse suffered by women like JK Rowling by the Trans lobby when she simply spoke the truth about biological women and trans women.

Or the truth about the grooming gangs, hidden for years by people in authority.

The truth is that we live in a country where inconvenient truths are regularly suppressed and those who dare to peak them are attacked.
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Re: Make your damned minds up!

Postby cromwell » 18 May 2021, 10:09

Well, Boris went ahead with the May 17th relaxation, as promised and against the wishes of SAGE.
So inevitably, here comes the response.
Screaming headlines about the spread of the Indian variant, SAGE "experts" saying that the June 21st relaxation has to be cancelled, headlines saying that June 21st has "almost zero" chance of going ahead.

Between now and June 21st Johnson is going to be put under immense pressure to cancel.

Why?

There are less than 1,000 people in hospital with covid. the other day in the whole of Wales, Scotland and England only five people died from it.
There are more people dying from falling off ladders, fgs.

What exactly is going on here?
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Re: Make your damned minds up!

Postby Suff » 18 May 2021, 10:23

cromwell wrote:What exactly is going on here?


All those screaming have been blessed with the situation that just keeps giving. If the situation gets better, they go out of the limelight and the press have to work for a living.

Here are some stats we should be looking at, from the worldometers page.

Today I clicked on the columns button and found a very interesting column which is hidden by default. It is active cases per million population.

UK, #111 in the world with 672.
France #16 with 9,495
Germany #59 with 2,394
Portugal #65 with 2,181

We have 45,805 active cases of Covid and 124 which are either serious or critical. Beause of this people are dying for a lack of NHS hospital care due to the fact that we are "protecting the NHS" so that if things go badly they will be able to cope.

The press and the Ex-Spurts are, quite literally, killing thousands of people by denying them treatment.

Sickening.
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Re: Make your damned minds up!

Postby Kaz » 18 May 2021, 15:57

I would honestly make it compulsory, apart from those with medical exemption. They did it with smallpox!
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Re: Make your damned minds up!

Postby Workingman » 18 May 2021, 16:11

Ah, but in the days of smallpox we had social responsibility without so much in the way of 'uman rights - the pendulum has swung. :roll:
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